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trev1997 t1_iturfn7 wrote

It's a low ridership, low revenue option that will be operationally expensive. It's not going to be implemented. It's just one of many options that was presented.

What we might see in the future is return of Red Line turn-backs at Silver Spring and Grovesnor, Yellow Line turn-back at Mt. Vernon, and increased Orange line service.

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ohoneup t1_itv3xit wrote

> Yellow Line turn-back at Mt. Vernon

Ugh, absolutely not. All region core line stations on that branch (Shaw-Fort Totten) deserve 4-5min headways. The turn back was stupid when I moved here and it will be stupid if re-implemented.

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trev1997 t1_itv57l4 wrote

The plan has 6 minute headways on the Green line.

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Momskitchen2 t1_itwzkpu wrote

They're not far off from it now I ride the green line daily and it's been 8 minutes between trains almost every day. Cutting two minutes off that can't be that much of an issue.

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walkallover1991 OP t1_itusem4 wrote

>It's just one of many options that was presented.

Clearly I am aware of that because I got it from the same slide as all of the other concepts...

One thing that confused me about that slide was a chart (p. 71) about all of the service concepts, with one entitled "Red Line Frequency Investment" that's says it's under additional analysis. It doesn't seem to be related to the turn-backs at Silver Spring/Grovesnor (as those are on the chart as well), so I wonder what that could be. Return to ATO on the Red Line only?

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trev1997 t1_itutwde wrote

Yeah, of course, I was more saying that for anyone who wasn't looking at the presentation.

I think it is probably ATO. Clarke has mentioned he is looking into that.

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walkallover1991 OP t1_itv8r3k wrote

I also wonder if it could be CBTC. "Investment" to me = money spent on something new and some sort of new process/system.

I'm not sure if I would classify as going back to the old ATO system as an "investment" given that it would just involve seeking approvals from the WMSC, training/re-training operators on ATO, etc.

In a tweet, Clarke said "Our team is working on getting 🚇 back to operating on ATO as it’s safer. Top transit systems in the 🌏 run some level of ATO. We are also working on CBTC & we will analyze platform screen doors for full modernization."

WMATA already has an office (IIRC) that deals with the transition to CBTC, and the VP of said office (Tiffani Jenkins, Vice President Signaling System Renewal Program (SSRP)) just gave a presentation at a conference that dealt with CBTC last month.

I could see the agency installing CBTC on the Red Line first, before producing to other lines throughout the system.

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MFoy t1_itvksl9 wrote

The only way to get increased orange line service at this point is to cut either blue or silver line service.

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trev1997 t1_itvnm59 wrote

Current full service has them running 18 trains through the tunnel per hour. They can run up to 24, so there's room for more.

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checkmategaytheists t1_itwm2kw wrote

Dream case scenario is they reconfigure the maps so that only two lines go through the Rosslyn tunnel and two lines go over the (currently only yellow line) bridge

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MFoy t1_itwm86c wrote

The long term goal has always been shifting the blue line crossing north after Rosalyn and sending it through Georgetown. The money is the issue.

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Docile_Doggo t1_itxcdhz wrote

It’s gonna be a long, expensive, pain in the ass. But it really needs to happen sooner or later.

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