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SirCrazyCat t1_iubr7le wrote
Remember when the news would report what happened instead of dump random sentences in no coherent order? This officer deserves much better reporting. I hope that keeping the video protected for the grand jury investigation is true and we get the whole story and hold people accountable.
RandomLogicThough t1_iucz6bc wrote
Well, even if not true eventually it will be released. I sure as hell would never give up if I was a family member. /And journalists still exist...if barely.
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More_Refrigerator379 t1_iub0k3a wrote
This poor family. I hope they get the justice and peace they deserve.
ForProfitSurgeon t1_iuc5sk6 wrote
Transparency is paramount. If the video exists it needs to be released to the family.
robotnique t1_iubh8jc wrote
Such a damned shame. The DC library police are some of the only uniformed police in the city who are almost universally good and decent people. Helps that they exist mostly to just keep the library as being a safe refuge for all, including the unhoused and otherwise disadvantaged. You are only asked to leave the building if you are taking away from the ability of others to enjoy the space.
They don't write stupid tickets or have any quotas to fulfill. And they actually work with the institution's social worker to offer assistance to people who are willing or able to take it.
zachzsg t1_iucbplx wrote
> “the release of the video could potentially interfere with the responses of witnesses who are testifying in the grand jury.”
Uh, maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t that how evidence is supposed to work? You present it in court, and then ya know the jury makes a decision based off said evidence?
And also, if witnesses testimony is different than the video, Doesn’t that point to witnesses being unreliable? Videos are more consistent than the human brain, a video camera can’t misremember reality or straight up lie about it.
Flame87 t1_iucjh73 wrote
"No not like that"
-The system
brodies t1_iudod2u wrote
Your quote suggests that they want the witnesses to testify without first seeing the video. That is, they want them to testify to what they actually remember and not tailor their testimony to what they see on the video.
TopMagician6574 t1_iuegvo7 wrote
But witness testimony kind of stinks, so why not just skip them altogether and show the video?
brodies t1_iujqdh4 wrote
Eyewitness testimony is often not entirely reliable, but it is still a category of evidence that should be considered. Video can’t show you what people were thinking at the time or describe what could be seen from other vantage points. There are plenty of things to be concerned about when a death occurs during training—was there a conspiracy to harm this person? A conspiracy to cover up an accident?—and one way to gather evidence on that is to get testimony from witnesses without giving them the chance to talk to other witnesses or to view other evidence. Mismatched statements can be significant, as can be surprisingly uniform statements that run counter to what the video shows. No one is suggesting their testimony is infallible, but neither is video evidence (because again it can only provide evidence from a specific vantage point). We want their testimony, though, without them having the chance to revise it or even just change their memory (memory being as fallible as it is) as a result of having seen the video.
ksixnine t1_iubhx7i wrote
I’m not sure as to what they hope to discover in this sad sad case by watching the video..
A horrible mistake (re:fuck up) was made by Porter bringing his actual pistol vs a training pistol to the event, and as a result we’ve lost a wonderful human.
There’s nothing to cover up. There’s nothing to hide.
The only thing that the family is going to do is traumatize themselves by watching this.
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ksixnine t1_iucnben wrote
AFAIK: the purpose in using a training gun, that is using simunition, during a baton training is to help them learn how quickly a gun can be produced, and understand how to react “if” they have been shot — the situation at hand is that the training officer made a horrible horrible mistake on the day.
I don’t understand if some members of the family haven’t seen the video, but there isn’t any reason to release this incident to the public at all.
zachzsg t1_iucburm wrote
> There’s nothing to cover up. There’s nothing to hide.
Then they should have no issue releasing the video to the family.
discardedFingerNail t1_iudmu03 wrote
Considering the cover up that was found with that LAPD officer being killed in training, I totally get the family's reaction. I hope the truth is found sooner than later.
MarkinDC24 t1_iue9iq4 wrote
Could an attorney chime in here, could this be normal?
DC_Commanders_Fan_ t1_iug0uxs wrote
Remember that video in the watcher??!? If we believed what was on the film, he would have been in big trouble!!
RandomLogicThough t1_iuaauzb wrote
How the fuck... jfc