Submitted by thegrumpycarp t3_z7d76z in washingtondc
meduses t1_iy6o8bo wrote
Reply to comment by cptjeff in You must STOP for pedestrians in crosswalks! by thegrumpycarp
Or at least those little light up flashy signs as a second indicator if the city doesn't want to install 900 new stoplights
BourbonCoug t1_iy737d5 wrote
Wish the little light up flashy signs had red lights instead of yellow.
cassiecat t1_iy7as19 wrote
Red lights would imply a mandatory stop, so they won't do that. A flashing red means stop like a stop sign. This is not practical at all crosswalks. Flashing yellow is what it is and what it should stay, unless they want to add a redlight triggered by crosswalk button pushes
cornell256 t1_iy8323k wrote
The crosswalk at 16th and Kalorama NW will flash yellow, then flash red, and then go solid red. This is the only one I know of but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more. It works well in my experience.
cassiecat t1_iy8hq37 wrote
That's roughly the kind I'm referring to, though the ones I've seen are a stop light with the bottom position a flashing yellow, the middle a solid yellow (which it does a very quick aggressive series of flashes to indicate it's going to become a solid yellow), and then it's a hard red. Edit: you often see these at intersections where a fire house has trucks exiting the yard.
JustHereForCookies17 t1_iy9dpfp wrote
I think there's one on Connecticut Ave like that, in Cleveland Park.
nappleapple t1_iy7r3y4 wrote
The flashing yellow lights are what is triggered by a crosswalk button in many of these cases.
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cassiecat t1_iy7t397 wrote
Lol uhhh yeah, obviously.... But they also exist in a format where they flash all the time and there's no button, or in a literal stop light that's always flashing yellow but triggered to run a stop cycle when a pedestrian hits the cross button.
brightblade13 t1_iy85xrp wrote
Disagree.
The flashing yellow lights are usually manually triggered by a pedestrian in the process of crossing, which is, itself, a mandatory stop.
The only difference would be that a red light would actually signal to the driver that the stop is, in fact, required while someone is crossing.
cassiecat t1_iy8hihb wrote
Have you never seen a crosswalk sign that flashes yellow at all times? That's what we're talking about.
BitterGravity t1_iy8xcxw wrote
Nearly all in DC only flash yellow when a button is pressed.
CrownStarr t1_iy96bzi wrote
I’m honestly not sure I ever have, do you have examples of some? I think I’ve only ever seen the ones that need a button press to turn on.
braaaaaaaaaaaah t1_iy91rzj wrote
If someone is crossing, it’s already a mandatory stop. The flashing yellow lights (which are often very small not very visible during the day) are actually directly contradicting the law.
cassiecat t1_iya2532 wrote
They were saying they wanted red lights flashing on the crossing sign. They won't do that. I'm not referring to a stop light
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mistersmiley318 t1_iy7xjjp wrote
Those don't even help that much. Half of drivers just ignore them
cptjeff t1_iy8rwbo wrote
Half? At the one on Benning by my house, it's much closer to 100%. It's rare that anyone stops and I usually just wait for traffic to clear because the shitty light cycle at Benning and East Cap guarantees a regular gap in traffic.
Free_Dog_6837 t1_iy8t1rl wrote
yeah they would just remove loads of crosswalks if they all had to have stoplights
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