TheDeHymenizer t1_j1vl77s wrote on December 27, 2022 at 6:56 PM

Reply to comment by dataminimizer in Did you drive drunk on Christmas? by dataminimizer

Its dangerous to operate a 2-6 ton speeding metal box either way.

DD laws have turned into a racket. Its far more about a "gotcha" for some guy with a tail light out then anything else.

But hhheeeyyy anything that gets more minorities into Felon status is generally hard to undo.

dataminimizer OP t1_j1vn0sj wrote on December 27, 2022 at 7:09 PM

100% agree we should stop organizing our communities around cars. Our cities should be easily walkable and bikeable and transit should be clean, safe, reliable, and regular. As you say, it’s as much a racial justice issue as anything else. Minorities would not be harassed by police and pulled over for pretextual reasons if they weren’t in their vehicles, where Fourth Amendment protections have been seriously eroded.

That said, “Every day, 32 people in the United States die in drunk driving car crashes. That’s one person every 45 minutes”. Drunk driving is worse than sober driving and you shouldn’t ever do it.

TheDeHymenizer t1_j1vno8v wrote on December 27, 2022 at 7:13 PM

>100% agree we should stop organizing our communities around cars. Our cities should be easily walkable and bikeable and transit should be clean, safe, reliable, and regular. As you say, it’s as much a racial justice issue as anything else. Minorities would not be harassed by police and pulled over for pretextual reasons if they weren’t in their vehicles, where Fourth Amendment protections have been seriously eroded.
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>That said, “Every day, 32 people in the United States die in drunk driving car crashes. That’s one person every 45 minutes”. Drunk driving is worse than sober driving and you shouldn’t ever do it.

oh my god?!?! Every day?!?!? 32 people?!?! In a Nation of a mere 360 million?!?! Where I do sign up for the picket line comrade?!?!? that's nearly .0000001%!!!!

Yah waiving a magic wand and completely redeveloping every major city would be a great solution. Another solution would be to roll back DD laws so if you're pulled over with a BAC above the .08 but there is no obvious sign within your driving its not automatically a DUI.

But again, rolling back the laws so they become sensible won't result in pats on the back or updoots so its very unlikely to happen. Its also very unlikely an entire nation completely redevelops itself. So I guess we just stay with the status quo and tell each other just how much we heckin hate how it plays out this way but guess there's just nothing that can be done.

edit: lmao the number of total daily auto accidents in the USA is 102. Minus the 32 from DD and that's 70 sober deaths a day. Looks like DDing might actually nnooottt be more dangerous then sober driving.

dataminimizer OP t1_j1vo6mo wrote on December 27, 2022 at 7:16 PM

If you think 32 people killed a day is no big deal, I wonder if you’d think differently if you had to tell each one’s family that they had been killed, but that it’s okay, since it’s like 0.000001% of the US population.

These are preventable deaths. Please stop drinking and driving. You’re going to hurt or kill someone eventually.

TheDeHymenizer t1_j1vs1hi wrote on December 27, 2022 at 7:42 PM

>f you think 32 people killed a day is no big deal, I wonder if you’d think differently if you had to tell each one’s family that they had been killed

aaannnddd immediately into "well I'm holier then thou use your emotions not your head! These minorities are being put onto felony status for good reason! Just redevelop every city from bottom up much easier then changing a law!"

Thanks but as stated above, I don't support policy on emotion.

>These are preventable deaths. Please stop drinking and driving. You’re going to hurt or kill someone eventually.

Are they now? When 2x's the number of people die in sober accidents every day? Hell you as an indivdual. If I told you you were going to die in an auto accident in the next 7 days you have a 33% chance of that accident involving a drunk driver and a 66% chance all parties involved are sober.

These aren't "preventable deaths". Smoking deaths are preventable when your looking at 1/600 people dying from them. When talking about 1/100000 people dying that's a rounding error.