I don’t understand why this is a problematic statement. The developer made promises about how they were going to invest and grow the development to draw more people to the area and in fact the reverse happened. (Mostly due to COVID, but I’ve noticed in lots of Douglas Development areas they seem to have just pulled the rug out and are letting them sink down to crap for some sort of re-build later instead of investing in keeping them vibrant.)

Bit he said she said, no? Douglas went big on Ivy City, they own almost everything there. It would be in their interest to invest in the neighborhood after/while delivering their projects.

Those investments likely would’ve improved the neighborhood.

As it is that area is kind of a shithole, and it’s definitely sketch especially at night.

hehe my car was broken into at a planet fitness as well! i keep nothing in my car )

The shelter is mens only because it is located far from schools- aka sex offender central.

where do you go now?

edit: why did I get downvoted to -3 for trying to learn about gyms in the area? 🤣

I find it hard to believe that happened in the parking garage there.

Wow. My car cost me $2,500. I'm astounded you'd put yourself in a position where $10k worth of damage was possible.

I never understood the draw. I went there three times, three different ways and it felt harder to get there than in some suburbs in Virginia.

• Friend drove there and had difficulty finding street parking.

• Uber/Lyft on the way there and they got lost picking me up.

• Bikeshared there and was dodging cars or took sidewalks that went in the wrong way.

I liked the wine but I think their winemaker left and it went downhill. It seemed like none of the workers wanted to be there and there was a bit of toxicity in the culture

"We’re a pretty woke, cool music company and that is part of why I wanted to be in Ivy City."

That's exactly right. I've lived both west and south of Ivy City in NE under 2 miles away and there's no good way to get there without a car. Why would I go to a neighborhood that's not accessible via public transportation when I can easily get to all the others? Not everyone has a car or wants to drive to a place to drink.

Doesn’t even have to involve that intersection. I’ve lived in the H street and NOMA areas for years and I can count the times I’ve gone to Ivy City on one hand. It’s just annoying to get to, without even the benefit of being in between me and someone I may be meeting.

The complete cut off to EASY public transit and lack of walkable access points is racist. DC set the area up to be a throwaway space and cut it off from resources and the rest of the growth in the surrounding areas.

That school and vacant bus lot needs to develop because it will bring more park space and the park along the back of Mt Olivet needs attention. It isn’t a place for children or adults.

Anyone arguing or downvoting me needs to spend real time there because I lived there and I am so disappointed in empower dc messing with the new project. Like can you guys start by cleaning up the park there?

I went to City Winery in Boston once for a concert and it was fine. My issue with the place is that I couldn't really tell who the core audience this place is for. Is it for wine snobs? But then again I see so many concerts and comedy shows held there, so is it also a music venue? Though the artists they tend to book are pretty small and indie for the most part, so even that's a tough draw.

The menu is also really generic - New American stuff that can be found in a myriad of upscale bars and restaurants.

City Winery is just really lacking an identity. It tries to be everything to everyone and the concept ends up feeling flat enough that most would not come back unless their favorite artist or comedian also happened to show up.

The wine was undrinkable and the beer wildly overpriced, but you don’t know what you’re talking about on the music front. They do have some 90s one hit wonders but they also brought in underground stuff like Bob Log III and country legend Ray Wylie Hubbard, so it was a mix.

Wine was good until their winemaker left after the pandemic. These quotes reflect poorly though… they definitely had deeper issues than the neighborhood.

Yeah but middle aged people loved that place

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Then why is anything else open? There is a crime problem. There has never not been a crime problem. There is never not gonna be a crime problem. Business in the city is always gonna be the best long term option. When you open a business you gotta be able to perservere through it and stick around long enough to see it get better. Kinda how everyone that tucked tail in the 80s left collective hundreds of trillions on the table.

There have been several cases in the last few years of restaurants blaming the city and/or neighborhood for their failure, and these claims are always accompanied by anguished howls from the credulous (usually heavily concentrated amongst the Popville commentariat). But in every case i can think of there was always something else going on.