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Brickleberried t1_j6553w2 wrote

No idea. I haven't seen the video to know how bad it is, but by the pre-response, it's probably bad.

However, relative to the George Floyd murder:

  • The cops have already been arrested, which negates one major purpose of potential protests

  • The cops are Black, which works to lessen the racial animosity this could provoke (then again, anecdotally, white cops seem to get arrested less than POC cops for similar crimes, so maybe that'll piss people off too).

  • However, there's also been very little actual police reform since George Floyd, and most police departments across the country have had their budgets increased, so there might be anger at the lack of response from 2.5 years ago.

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Texas_Rockets t1_j688g0r wrote

I think the notion that if they were white they wouldn’t have gotten arrested so quickly will be a key factor. But this case was relatively unique in that there is no nuance to be explored, no further facts/evidence that could change the understanding of what happened, and it was all caught entirely on video. It was straight up just 5 cops beating a man to death. There’s no ambiguity here that might give the police chief pause.

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Turtlepower7777777 t1_j68aupc wrote

Fun fact: if you treat all police forces in the US as a military, they would be the third most funded military organization in the world (only behind China and US military)

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BellbergDC t1_j656cf9 wrote

Lol very little police reform? Did you miss the two huge bills recently passed by the council?

DC is ahead of everyone when it comes to reform.

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Brickleberried t1_j65aeoa wrote

Police reform != criminal justice reform.

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ThatsALovelyShirt t1_j65jfda wrote

The RCCA is literally reforming the criminal code. By reducing almost all penalties. Including for things like sexual assault and rape.

It's got very little to do with police, except having them spend $50 million on retraining. Most of the changes have to do with giving lenient judges more power.

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BellbergDC t1_j664xg8 wrote

Umm you do know they have a huge police reform bill they passed as well right?

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ThatsALovelyShirt t1_j66a09s wrote

OK so then both were passed. What's that got to do with my response or the RCCA?

I was responding to:

> Police reform != criminal justice reform

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Itwantshunger t1_j65ibbc wrote

Dealing with MPD over major issues last year, I can say they disengage more often now. I don't think that was the lesson for them to learn, but that is the biggest shift they've made. They are highly aware of media optics.

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BellbergDC t1_j664tox wrote

What’s the lesson you want them to learn? They are more passive and disengage to avoid community outrage. Why enforce minor crimes that can lead to horrible outcomes?

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Itwantshunger t1_j667obr wrote

I don't know. I deal with a lot of vulnerable people in DC, and I have no idea.

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BellbergDC t1_j66bsal wrote

Ok so you don’t know what the lesson was supposed to be, but you know MPD didn’t learn the correct one. Sure.

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Itwantshunger t1_j6l744g wrote

Just to revisit, the MPD cops told me I had to remove mentally unstable intruders from my own building after several breaking and entering reports from me. But yes, make sure I feel bad about not solving policing in America.

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BellbergDC t1_j6ll0i1 wrote

Were you the mentally unstable person by chance?

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thriftshopmusketeer t1_j666pyb wrote

“Don’t fuckin beat and murder people so goddamn much”

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BellbergDC t1_j66c996 wrote

Umm ok…so MPD is beating and murdering people? Maybe you aren’t from here but for the most part this sub agree that MPD isn’t aggressive: particularly after the reform bills started but if that’s what you want to believe have at it.

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