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SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9qkhpn wrote

>You could check this, it's a natural development of cold war.

Denying agency of Koreans over their own nation was a natural development of the cold war? What authority did the US and Russia have to delegate what the PRK could do with is own land?

>US rejected soviet's proposal.And Soviet rejected UN's proposal

When was the PRK consulted in all this?

>With us withdrawed their troop from south Korea. North Korea decided to attack with Stalin's approved.

Border skirmishes had been ongoing well prior to the Korean invasion of Korea. As well, the installed dictator in the South was just finishing up a self identified eradication campaign at Jeju after unification demonstrators started making demands. Upwards of 100,000 people were killed, injured or displaced.

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s8018572 t1_j9qnjgj wrote

What authority? Military occupation authority? Soviet even directly rejected UN's proposal. There's nothing can be done at the moment.

Talk about dictator, you know Kim Il-sung a dictator too,right?

Millions of death or exile cause he want to "unify" Korea by war. He wants to be another Mao as he won the Chinese civil war. Do you know he purged the leadership of southern communist after PLA retake Pyongyang for him? And then he purged pro-soviet and pro-sino members to make his Kim dynasty.He called them spy from the south lul.

Both dictator was shit,but guess what? South nowaday is better than north thousands time. And south is not a dictatorship anymore.

Even if US want to consult with PRK, do you think PRK wouldn't listen to Soviet?

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SelfAwareGrizzlyBear t1_j9qv4f0 wrote

>What authority? Military occupation authority?

So Japan was justified in exporting Korean women as sex slaves because they occupied the peninsula? If your analysis begins and ends at might makes right, I really don't know what to tell you.

> Soviet even directly rejected UN's proposal.

Why?

>There's nothing can be done at the moment.

The US did not have to occupy korea. They did not have to outlaw the PRK. They did not have to install Rhee, who would go on to block reunification. They did not have to commit war crimes at Jeju. They did not have to air strike refugees at Nogeun-ri

>Talk about dictator, you know Kim Il-sung a dictator too,right?

Not particularly, no. The DPRK largely absorbed the PRK in the North, and there isn't much of any evidence to show that the election of Kim faced faced significant malfeasance. The same can't be said for Rhee. The 1948 South Korean Assembly election can hardly even be called such, considering how voting was held in the same manner as under Japanese colonial administration, where only landowners in populous areas could vote, and where single elders voted for entire villages.

>Millions of death or exile cause he want to "unify" Korea by war

Why did Kim want to unify Korea? Because the partition of the peninsula was facially illegitimate. Koreans clearly did not want it, seeing how they never voted to partition.

>He wants to be another Mao as he won the Chinese civil war. Do you know he purged the leadership of southern communist after PLA retake Pyongyang for him? And then he purged pro-soviet and pro-sino members to make his Kim dynasty.He called them spy from the south lul.

Narrativizing isn't going to get you anywhere. The USMGIK banned labor organization and the PRK. Rhee eradicated an entire island of opposition

>Both dictator was shit,but guess what? South nowaday is better than north thousands time.

Surely that has nothing to do with South Korea receiving the equivalent in US funding of several Marshal Plans, while the North received more bombs than the entirety of Europe during the second world war. What's the union situation in the South today?

Leaving the peninsula to its own devices and governance surely would have led to significantly better outcomes for both halves. The North wouldn't have been bombed to rubble and the south would have stumbled upon an at-least-vaguely stable leader far sooner than it has

>Even if US want to consult with PRK, do you think PRK wouldn't listen to Soviet?

Did the PRK have some supremely endowed obligation to not listen to the soviets? Considering the structure of the PRK, it almost surely would have aligned with the USSR, hence why the US spent so much time and effort installing a dictator in the south, smashing popular dissent in the south, and aiding and abetting in it's atrocities

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s8018572 t1_j9se446 wrote

Lul, so you didn't even know the problem which is he started the war. Are you consider there's something like justified invasion war? Especially it's quite weak reason to do it.

American left the peninsula before Korean war so that's why Stalin approved Kim's action.

If invasion was successed, there would be a huge politicial purge and dissident.

Do you think there's no purge after CCP win the Chinese civil war?

North Korean people are starving to death today. And you're crying south didn't have strong union power.

There isn't much of crime evidence of early north korean election because North Korea still a dictatorship.There's no one could enter the border to investigate it.

I don't know. You keep avoiding the thing is Kim is a dictator too. At least South was a democracy now, they democratized with June Democracy Movement in 1987.

The demonstrations made by mass of people, unlike north Korea, did have even have a demonstration? Oops, I guess not. The mass of north Korean people couldn't have demonstration because of their government's totalitarian dictatorship ,not because they lived in heaven.

Are you sure you have your number right? U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater, and they dropped 635,000 tons in Entire Korean war.( So naturally it included south Korean's territory)

South received aid from American, north did received aid from China and Soviet too.

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