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ClimateCare7676 t1_jaabuop wrote

Reply to comment by EphraimJenkins in Norway: Thunberg joins Indigenous protests against turbines. The young environmental activist says green energy cannot come at the expense of human rights. A court order has deemed the turbines' location in Norway illegal, as they disrupt Sami reindeer-herding traditions by DoremusJessup

Reindeer might play a role in the ecology of the region at this point, like bisons in the US prior to colonisation, who were both the source of food for the Indigenous communities and the essential part of the local environment. Preserving biodiversity, local species and the environment are as crucial for mitigating climate change and carbon capture as finding clean energy sources. Reindeer might be helping that - by moving the soil, proving natural fertilizer, transporting seeds, etc, and their role in the ecosystem needs to be researched and be accounted for. Indigenous peoples generally have better understanding of the role of the animals in their local ecosystem because they historically depend on this ecosystem being healthy for survival.

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EphraimJenkins t1_jaad8cp wrote

Wind turbines won’t effect any of that.

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Redneckmoans t1_jaae2zz wrote

The wind turbines put a bunch of micro and nano plastic along with other nasty pollution into the environment. It ends up in reindeers, fish, plants, water, etc.

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The-Entity t1_jaak597 wrote

Not to mention the disturbance of birds, which are also an important part of the ecosystem.

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irk5nil t1_jacb1v2 wrote

> wind turbines put a bunch of micro and nano plastic

Say what? Any plastic in wind turbines is just pee in the ocean compared to the rest. Like, we're talking less than 1%. How about we get rid of nondegradable packaging materials first?

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Redneckmoans t1_jacd21j wrote

I don't see how the two are in conflict. Let's do both

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irk5nil t1_jacdabd wrote

Let's do what, not build wind turbines which displace fossil fuel generation? Surely not!

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Redneckmoans t1_jacf0fb wrote

There are plenty of alternatives to wind turbines that aren't fossil fuel based which do far less harm to fragile ecosystems.

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EphraimJenkins t1_jaaeztw wrote

No more than what’s already there.

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Redneckmoans t1_jaaf5m2 wrote

That’s been disproven by comparing water samples before and after windmills were put near rivers

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