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Orphasmia t1_j9sifyc wrote

I don’t think they can even afford to misuse any of the aid they’ve received.

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MGMAX t1_j9syuu5 wrote

Well don't get me wrong, we did have a corruption fiasco in defense ministry just recently, but that was about food products price gouging.

I'm sure that a couple of MREs and uniform kits are being lost along the way, but the propaganda points of Ukraine selling arms on black market is pure, distilled idiocy

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Agitated-Aspect1242 t1_j9t3os2 wrote

Also you'd have to be pretty bold to try any large scale embezzlement 'cause I'm sure if you got found out you'd be in a whole world of shit (like maybe just dead, they're at war after all, they ain't playin).

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Thue t1_j9sv81u wrote

Ukraine as a whole would not gain anything by misuse. But individual corrupt officers or officials inside Ukraine could misuse aid for personal gain. Tragedy of the commons.

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Hypertension123456 t1_j9t6vgj wrote

If Ukraine falls, then those corrupt officers or officials end up dead or in prison. And there families as well. Even if they are enemy collaborators, well, traitors aren't looked at kindly when their usefulness ends. Russia has enough kleptocrats of its own, they won't need to tolerate one's from Ukraine. The brutal nature of the Russian regime does put a lot of pressure on Ukraine.

You can see it on the battlefield. Ukraine fights so hard because they are facing genocide if they fail. Russia miscalculated how well Ukraine remembers the Holodomor. There might be some corruption left, but not nearly enough to siphon weapons and supplies from the front line.

Russia on the other hand, they face no consequences for failure. If someone's army looks below the money spent due to corruption, it's Putins army for sure.

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Thue t1_j9teiat wrote

As I said, tragedy of the commons.

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TrumpDesWillens t1_j9tlgg0 wrote

No, if ukraine loses the corrupt will move to bern or london which is what they've been doing even before the war and they'll still do the same if ukraine wins.

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Martinat0r t1_j9wdgz1 wrote

Damn people really forget fast that ukraine is the most corrupt country in europe.

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