NorthStarZero t1_j9x75ao wrote on February 25, 2023 at 5:10 AM

Reply to comment by crazytrooper in Canada pledges more tanks to Ukraine, imposes new Russia sanctions by Tei-ren

As a Canadian tanker, no thank you.

Replacement Leopards or the new Panther plz.

quick4142 t1_j9x9seg wrote on February 25, 2023 at 5:37 AM

Noob question but curious why? Are the Abrahams not good?

cudeLoguH t1_j9xeqw0 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 6:31 AM

They dont work too well in the cold climates and from what i’ve heard are a pain to keep running in the winter compared to the leopard 2s

Also the Abrams are extremely overweight like the british challenger 2s and are overall not fit for our terrain

PumpkinManGuy t1_j9xhut3 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 7:07 AM

They're a great tank, just not for the Canadian use case. Like most military equipment, a lot of the options are good, but your situation and needs will dictate the best option.

KesMonkey t1_j9xk0p2 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 7:35 AM

*Abrams

Tr3sp4ss3r t1_j9x9u2o wrote on February 25, 2023 at 5:37 AM

Outsider perspective: Yes you are right. I mean if you had the logistics to keep the jet fuel in the tank for the Abrahms, maybe, but you would also have to be good at protecting the logistics... just stick with the conventional stuff, perfectly good tanks.

mindman5225 t1_j9xjx0d wrote on February 25, 2023 at 7:33 AM

Abrams can run on multiple types of fuel.

Tr3sp4ss3r t1_j9ym8d1 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 3:02 PM

>Abrams tanks run on a "gas turbine engine which needs jet fuel," Kirby said. "So there's a specific type of fuel that powers the Abrams, and we've got to make sure that pipeline—literally and figuratively—is available to Ukraine."

https://www.newsweek.com/us-abrams-tanks-fueling-problems-ukraine-1776639

The article goes on to mention that it can run on other types of fuel, but no one has done so to their knowledge. There is no "idle", the turbine runs continuously after ignition so, if/when they do use another fuel, the same problem arises only with a different fuel. The Abrahms is a HUGE fuel hog. That's the problem.