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green_flash t1_jaeyy94 wrote

Her exact words:

> "We are firmly opposed to the death penalty, and we are raising this issue all over the world," Baerbock said at a press conference in Berlin alongside her Israeli counterpart, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's new right-wing government.

> "All over the world, states are in the process of abandoning this cruel practice, partly because it has been proven that it is not effective as a deterrent," Baerbock said.

> The foreign minister said it was a credit to Israel that, despite the considerable terrorist threats it has long faced, the country's civilian courts had imposed capital punishment only once: against the Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in the 1960s.

> "That has always been an impressive argument for those of us who have defended Israel on the international stage against unfair criticism," Baerbock said. "I, therefore, say as a friend: I am convinced that it would be a big mistake to break with this history."

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autotldr t1_jaeujtb wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)

> The foreign ministers also spoke about the nuclear threat posed by Iran, with Cohen saying it was time to reimpose sanctions and put a "Credible military option" on the table.

> "Iran must not be allowed to acquire a nuclear bomb. This is our common stance and this is the goal of our diplomatic efforts."

> Iran agreed to a deal with the five permanent UN Security Council members plus Germany and the European Union in 2015 by signing the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, often referred to as the Iran nuclear deal.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: nuclear^#1 Iran^#2 action^#3 deal^#4 Germany^#5

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yax51 t1_jaeumcz wrote

Yeah...I kinda feel that Germany has no business telling Israel anything

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IndeterminateYogurt t1_jaf2k87 wrote

This is a bullshit take. Honestly. Its not 1945 anymore, grow up.

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Lazorgunz t1_jaf4y5q wrote

some countries go forwards, other backwards. Idiots cant tell the difference

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izit23 t1_jaev9g8 wrote

Why?

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[deleted] t1_jaevr91 wrote

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ObjectiveDark40 t1_jaex39i wrote

Yes because the government from 80 years ago is the same as today. Germany is frozen in time and has never moved forward.

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DawnCallerAiris t1_jaf2493 wrote

Ngl if I were an Israeli Jew I probably would not rush to take advice on how to run things from the country filled with the children of people who murdered 6 million of mostly your people for no real reason. Or anyone else for that matter, given the appalling apathy the stories faced during the war.

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IndeterminateYogurt t1_jaf2e37 wrote

Your ancestor might have killed one of my ancestors. Does that make you guilty?

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chullyman t1_jaf29zl wrote

> So, 80 years ago, you killed off everyone you didn’t like–even people who had caused you no harm

>”you”

No not “you” the German government is different now. Your argument makes no sense.

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lbktort t1_jaevxq3 wrote

Nazi Germany doesn't exist anymore.

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Froticlias t1_jaexpox wrote

Who knows the weight of sin better than one who has tried to atone?

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SuperSpread t1_jaevy8o wrote

Is Germany committing genocide now? No. Is Israel committing genocide now? Yes. Simple as that.

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DynamoPyro t1_jaeyx3o wrote

Genocide? You mean against Palestine which has... terror groups with broad public support that repeatedly advocate for the genocide of the Jewish people?

Don't get me wrong the whole division and allocation of land in the region was whack but when literally all Arab nations tried to forcefully conquer and wipe out everyone in Israel and lost and as a result more land was in Israeli hands?

Like idk man I used to be gungho for Palestine till I actually read up on Arab-Israeli wars. There's been major atrocities on both sides of everything, I think that both sides do have valid claims to the land itself but claiming either side is 100 percent innocent and always right is a bad take.

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chibiace t1_jaf25lx wrote

Claims to land because some people you may be related to lived there thousands of years ago is not valid.

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nibord t1_jaf0p67 wrote

Are you saying genocide is okay when performed against a group that advocates for genocide?

Cause I’m pretty firmly on the “nobody should commit genocide” side of things.

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yolkadot t1_jaewib6 wrote

That’s not how the world should work.

Germany has been an anti fascist state for decades. Fighting to redeem itself from its horrible past.

Israel needs to be called out and should be sanctioned, just like Russia, for its crimes against humanity.

Currently, saying anything that opposes the genocide in Israel, is quickly branded as antisemitic rhetoric by Germans, which poses a great problem, in helping Palestinians.

I don’t think it’s far fetched to compare similarities of the Holocaust with the genocide of Palestinians

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SharanskyWailer t1_jaf34mz wrote

As it is, they've already had a de facto death penalty with settlers and Tsahal officers allowed to shoot Arabs for sport. Even countries that don't have or got rid of the death penalty, like Turkey, Russia, Colombia, etc. have it by other means with SWAT teams and brutally inhumane prison conditions.

Not all Germans are critical of this. I can guarantee you that AfD and Antideutsch are cheerleading this development, as well as very many Americans (including hardcore pro-Israel Democrats).

Remember that this kind of hardline dehumanization of "others" has a long history in that country. It was the kibbutzniks who would shoot at villagers to provoke retaliation, thus intervention by the Tsahal, and who would habitually torture captured returnees ("mistanenim") to death.

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needypondy t1_jaf3gna wrote

> As it is, they’ve already had a de facto death penalty with settlers and Tsahal officers allowed to shoot Arabs for sport.

If it was, it would happen a lot more often. But it doesn’t. Instead, nearly all Palestinians who get killed is in firefights from both sides, and there have been plenty of times where settlers were arrested if they killed Palestinians.

This is also why on r/CombatFootage you’ll often see Israeli soldiers not even shooting at Palestinians holding guns where Israeli soldiers are operating because their rules of engagement forbid them from doing so.

Simple conclusion then is that pretty much everyrhing you wrote is verifiably false.

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