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Moutch t1_jaaac0o wrote

Reply to comment by DragonflyMon83 in Macron seeks Beijing’s help to end Ukraine war by upvote-for-rights

Because they are the only country that could actually make Russia stop if they wanted.

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MarvVanZandt t1_jaaao8v wrote

I don’t think they have a grip on the leash as much as they want you to think. Plus no way Russia is trading being US bitch to being chinas. They want to be the one who wags the stick too.

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Moutch t1_jaabcmd wrote

They definitely do. If China sanctions Russia they have nothing left.

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MarvVanZandt t1_jaagexi wrote

If china sanctions Russia and sides with the west it would be a huge blow to chinas CCP leadership. It would signal/confirm US is in charge which is exactly what they are trying to change. And it would loosen the grip they hold on Asia.

Also Russia could get by, maybe not as long, with the help of India, Iran, North Korea, some African nations. Some South American countries.

So don’t hold your breath for that resolution.

China jumped on the Russian bandwagon thinking they were going to be global disrupters by use of force and coercion to regain global power status identical to US. It’s back firing. Now they are trying to save face and pretend they are in control. When really they never were and just thought Russia would hold up its end of the bargain.

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Kitchen_Pride6726 t1_jab28za wrote

I think Russia gets a lot here in China, weapons materials, chips, money, logistical resources etc. If China is on the other side, the war may be almost over

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Estake t1_jacpesg wrote

The opposite. It would show their ppl that they achieved what the US/west couldn't and that they have more influence on the world stage.

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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaaapvt wrote

By being as bad as russia? Great choice.

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Moutch t1_jaaba6p wrote

Being bad or not is irrelevant. Russia can't do anything without China.

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Drachenfels1999 t1_jaaf5cd wrote

Very true, and unfortunately for Russia, China won't sacrifice their access to the North American and Eurozone consumer markets over Ukraine.

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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaacatr wrote

And China wants to invade Taiwan, fucks over their own people so trying to trust any of them is as bad as ruzzia invading ukraine, not to mention china is thinking about supplying lethal measures to russia in this war and it's not in ukraine's favour. So yeah, both bad as fuck.

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EifertGreenLazor t1_jae1v2c wrote

If you look at the history of the government of Taiwan, China had been gaining favorability until recently. Their plan may have been akin to getting the government on their side to eventually annex Taiwan. Hong Kong protests changed those plans drastically.

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