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ajac423 t1_j9sivss wrote

Question: What is the best sub for updates on this?

Also, this is giving me old Covid vibes. That poor family.

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VoldemortsBallsack t1_j9snvt1 wrote

This is much much much worse, it has a 53% mortality rate If this got loose in a city in human transmissible form we'd be in a post apocalyptic world in a year.

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Amn-El-Dawla t1_j9t1h6t wrote

> If this got loose in a city in human

Are you still doubting the human capability of stupid?!
It's not a matter of "If" it should be when, I am, sure this will breakout..

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VoldemortsBallsack t1_j9tfxuj wrote

It's not human transmissible yet. If it did get into a city I see them basically doing some zombie apocalypse shit and killing anyone trying to leave. It would be the end of the world as we know it.

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Arbusc t1_j9v9gd3 wrote

Not trying to make light of the situation, but some strains of avian flu can cause rapid shifts of lethargy and mania, the sort of mania that involves attacking anything that comes near them. The mania comes from mild brain swelling that occurs in certain strains. This one seems no different, though so far the human cases have not shown such mania. But if we’re not careful and unlucky enough to start exhibiting such symptoms in human patients, we may essentially end up in a ‘zombie’ scenario.

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VoldemortsBallsack t1_j9vjgx8 wrote

They'd have to have quarantine camps and say someone's kid was sick, those parents would try to protect them and keep them at home and in the process cause the spread to worsen. Nobody would want to be near anyone sick, not even some doctors, so it would be difficult for the infected to get food and supplies without infecting others.

Nobody could work to earn money. Society would collapse because production of food and other goods would end and desperate people would turn to criminal behavior to survive. Rural areas would be flooded with city dwellers trying to find food and places to hunt/gather etc. leading to more crimes like murder to protect your own food sources, homes, and property.

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Mrischief t1_j9t4ghu wrote

Problem being if it is 53% doctor nurses etc will stop working quite quick, as a way to triage the spread. Cause at that point it is too deadly to work without use of special equipment.

But it depends on HOW transmittable it would be / will be. It would basicly come down to black plague level quarantining of some sort (atleast at first introduction)

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Banzai076 t1_j9vzl31 wrote

Wonder who would make a ‘Ring Around the Rosy’ part 2..

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Arbusc t1_j9v930q wrote

Especially since it kills relatively slowly but spreads incredibly fast. Let’s hope it hasn’t mutated to human-to-human transmission yet.

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Tiamatium t1_j9sjg5e wrote

People keep panicking, saying this thing has death rate of 50-60%. One thing you need to understand is that only cases where people die are being reported, and from there on other cases are being established. Chances are that in absolute majority of cases people get infected, get better and cases are never reported, especially in countries like Cambodia.

Similar thing was happening with COVID, where at first only cases where people needed hospitalization were being reported (and without hospitalization they would have died), but once it became a pandemic, we started mass testing and death rate dropped.

Also this is pandemic we were preparing for, for decades. Chances are this is not going to be as bad as COVID, it's probably more like swine flu pandemic of 2010ish, and those that lived through it probably never knew there was a pandemic going on.

Downvote me if you want.

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canimal14 t1_j9sztsd wrote

take my upvote for common sense and also stopping my panic attack, also, don’t we have stockpiles of this vaccine? Because this scenario has always been a not if it happens but when kind of deal?

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cryptid_snake88 t1_j9t0tzq wrote

I thought so too but I read a scientific journal that stated we don't have a vaccine ready to go because if it did become transmissible H2H then it would be a mutation. They would only be able to prepare the vaccine when they have information on the biological structure of the mutation

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Much_Schedule_9431 t1_j9sog64 wrote

Okay so based on the article the “good news” is that the second patient is the father of patient zero that passed away meaning they were in close proximity to each other and not some rando from across town. Additionally the outbreak is in a “village” which hopefully limits its potential pathways to spread beyond. Finally the local health authorities as well as the WHO are aware of it. Here’s hoping the 2020s finally catches a break.

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Ratermelon t1_j9sgk07 wrote

>On Wednesday, the man’s 11-year-old daughter died of H5N1, which was confirmed a few hours later. It’s not yet clear whether the man was infected by the same source as his daughter, or whether the girl infected him.

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LydFishes t1_j9shh90 wrote

Considering their 22 chickens and 3 ducks all recently died it’s a safe bet he got it from a bird.

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FC37 t1_j9sksni wrote

Best bet is that they both did, frankly.

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ozzykiichichaosvalo t1_j9ski71 wrote

Can any scenario emerge where another family is exposed to infected wildlife then the two clusters have contact and eventually this leads to Human-to-Human?

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amayonegg t1_j9t21p7 wrote

Any time the virus enters a human being there is the chance for it to mutate into a form that can be transmitted from human to human. That's pretty much the only thing that can really be said with any accuracy, there's no way of knowing how big or small that chance is, but every time it infects a human being the chance exists. My fear isn't the virus itself tbh, its the way my "fellow citizens" behaved the last time the media got hold of a pandemic story. It never ever hurts to have a stockpile of maybe 2 weeks worth of food/essentials guys.

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pressonacott t1_j9tatz2 wrote

Problem is, in the asian culture. It's fine to dine with strangers or use condiments strangers have used prior to you using it.

I've seen veggies not eaten all the way tossed back in with fresh veggies or bakery tossed back in with other bakery even if I touched it. (I turn a blind eye because that's the way of life in Vietnam) but I can see this as a huge jump in infections bouncing around faster than covid especially with covid restrictions lifted in most parts of the world.

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thesd123 t1_j9ttv80 wrote

What parts of Asia practice these methods? So I can make sure to never visit there in my lifetime.

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pressonacott t1_j9tv674 wrote

I'm in Vietnam.

Sanitary conditions aren't the best. But I love it here.

I just came back from Thailand, and it's just about the same in Phuket.

To be clear: these are street food places that I go to. It's common practice to take a napkin and wipe your chopsticks and spoons as well as cups and bowls before eating.

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ChaoticRoar t1_j9sxqh5 wrote

A new hand touches the Beacon…

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thesd123 t1_j9tu718 wrote

1 second to midnight.

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geophilo t1_j9tcdw3 wrote

No we can't get a break.

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