Spoonfeedme t1_je890pm wrote
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>5 year junk prediction: https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1637916406141394944?lang=en
First, that's a child. Are you saying you trusted children? Or are you merely engaging in bad faith arguments?
Second, that's not what she said, even if she wasn't a child. She was speaking quite rightly of the impacts of locking in climate change that will occur over the next 50-100 years, the actions we undertake today having ripples for generations after.
>https://weatherspark.com/h/m/137170/2023/3/Historical-Weather-in-March-2023-in-Taipei-Taiwan#Figures-Temperature
The definition of anecdote.
What has the temperatures worldwide looked like?
It that temperatures are increasing on a worldwide scale.
But, please, do go on quoting children incorrectly as if it is actual evidence to support your point.
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Spoonfeedme t1_je8bc3d wrote
>She was quoting James Anderson, a "renowned climate scientist".
And, again, you are still misrepresenting what was said.
>Like it or not, people like her have clout and status. Don't try and backpedal, cause you'd probably like this tweet if you saw it.
I didn't. I pointed out that it didn't state what you claimed it did.
Perhaps you should spend more time reading and less time...I dunno, whatever it is you do instead.
>And ya some places are got a degree or two warmer in a relatively short amount of time in Earth's history. Some didn't. You can come drink lemonade with me in my old folks home in 50 years time and admit I was right.
The amount of warming currently going on is unprecedented in the entire history modern humans have been on this planet.
The only comparable periods (and still slower and less dramatic) of climate change are linked to population collapse and large numbers of civilizational declines throughout our history.
>You can come drink lemonade with me in my old folks home in 50 years time and admit I was right.
LOL. You think you will be able to afford an old folks home. Cute.
[deleted] t1_je8ffqi wrote
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Spoonfeedme t1_je8g7o8 wrote
>Okay Spoon feed me. Tell me word for word what she said.
I already did. I see my comment about reading still applies.
> I am unantagonistically trying to understand your argument here. Because it looks clear to me what she said and implied.
No, you are not. You are pulling up a five year old post from a child.
If you want to genuinely understand unantagonistically, why don't you try reading the three links I already posted. Unlike you, I read, and I don't rely on the words of children or individual scientists to draw my conclusions.
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Spoonfeedme t1_je8odpw wrote
>So at first, you denied the 5 year prediction was made (which it was).
No. I denied that was the claim. It wasn't. You know this. That is also explained in the twitter link itself, and admitted to later by the twitter's original 'gotcha' author.
>You denied that the temperature in my city has remained the same (which it has).
No, I pointed out an anecdote does not data make. Since you don't know what climate means in the phrase "climate change", suffice to say I must insist that it doesn't start and end at the borders of your city.
>Then you imply that civilizational collapse is going to occur due to temperature change. Which is exactly what Greta said in the first place (and never happened).
I implied it by pointing to the examples of past human civilizational collapse under better conditions. The past is not always an accurate predictor of the future, but only a fool that thinks climate starts and ends based on human political boundaries would suggest it isn't at all connected or meaningful to learn from our past.
>Nice. We've come full circle. Fact is, yes the temperature's gonna change in places (see links you provided) and we're gonna adapt.
Maybe. Maybe many many people will die. It's fine to say you don't care as long as you get to sip lemonade at the end. Being a sociopath isn't crime.
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Spoonfeedme t1_je8rw2k wrote
>What is the alternative to adaptation and confidence in human ingenuity?
Actual adaptation to mitigate the looking predicted catastrophic change in climate? You have demonstrated that you are willing to lie to me and yourself to avoid confronting the possibility of the world being severely damaged the change that is occuring, to the point of attempting to claim that it isn't.
Doing nothing isn't adaptation.
>Which we are not.
Who is we? There are already tens of thousands of deaths occuring each year thanks to climate change, either directly or thanks to the stress that change is placing on existing fragile systems.
Your statements remind me of the villas outside London in the 4th century, still enjoying their baths, oblivious to reality.
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