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[deleted] t1_jd2b2dr wrote

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carpcrucible t1_jd2gr8v wrote

How? That's what happened.

Do people not realize that this is literally a matter of life and death? Like, it's no joke. The political will is nowhere near where it should be to achieve the lofty promised goals of securing sovereignty and territorial integrity.

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trailingComma t1_jd2mph5 wrote

Do you realise that these are gifts freely given and that spitting in our faces for it isn't a good way to get more?

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carpcrucible t1_jd2x8cd wrote

I'm not spitting in our face, I'm pointing out that it took us a year to agree to get started to ramp up shell production. It was clear from the first months that the rate couldn't be sustained. But in good bureaucratic fashion, spent a year doing what exactly.

We can't go to Kyiv to do photo-ops with Zelensky and talk about how we'll ensure Ukraine's security and then not actually take the steps necessary to achieve that. If we aren't actually committed, it's better to push for a ceasefire then.

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