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Tribalbob t1_je3t2d6 wrote
Appealing to older demographic I suppose? Italy is considered to be one of, if not, the most culinarily refined countries in the world (they pride themselves on their food) that I suppose there's a lot of pearl clutching going on at the concept of growing food rather than the traditional way.
probablynotmine t1_je47pb5 wrote
As an Italian, I can tell you this is pure demagoguery. It keeps the old, tradition stuck-up population in agreement with an over traditional, conservative government, touching an aspect that is at heart to many and not an issue at all. If that was the issue, they would have waged war against sushi places, kebab shops, ethical restaurant and shops. But they don’t, because that’s a tax-paying given as of today. Lab-grown meat would be another type of plate, it would not be mixed to the traditional dishes, it would have its own aisle at the supermarket and its own restaurants…it would not replace anything. But it’s new, it’s scary and that’s the perfect thing to be actively engaged to get the trust of an overly scared aging population attached to the old ways, giving the impression to be working hard without really losing anything in the process
ItchySnitch t1_je4hxd8 wrote
I’ve been multiple times to Italy and haven’t seen any kebab, sushi or non typical Italian restaurant. So they most be rarer then
Dunekar31 t1_je4irhc wrote
The last time have you been to italy was in the 70s? I think it's impossible not to see any non typical restaurant since that age. Maybe, if you paradrop to Monteculo di Sotto and get extcracted by helicopter, and even then you should be blindfolded for the whole voyage...
HistoricalDealer t1_je4dy52 wrote
Meloni is a dumbass and so are her voters, she's just appealing to old and ignorant people basically.
8ew8135 t1_je53d3y wrote
Have to remember they are religious. Killing things is part of the tradition. How it’s killed, how it’s prepared is usually part of the name of the dish. Tradition is an obstacle, in other words.
mrDemien t1_je4tukw wrote
What a stupid title. I hate how in modern journalism everything is so exagerrated.
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8ew8135 t1_je533ua wrote
Traditions are important to keep… when it’s the best way… but when there will be better ways, tradition is a prison that culture can’t escape.
Schrodingers_tombola t1_je3v9go wrote
Good. Italian meats and cheeses are too delicious to be threatened by tech crap. I can only imagine lab-grown stuff never being at all a close contender though. It would just harm profit and reduce the amount of good stuff that is produced. It would likely only drive a further wedge between people who get to eat real quality ingredients and people who get to 'indulge' in stuff that is just a simulacra of a burger
Embarrassed-Writer61 t1_je3xwqk wrote
'Good. Italian meats and cheeses are too delicious to be threatened by tech crap.'
Logical fallacy number 1. Appeal to nature. You assume that natural things (Italian meats and cheeses) are inherently better than artificial things (tech crap, lab-grown stuff).
Logical fallacy 2. Slippery slope: You claim that lab-grown food will lead to a series of negative consequences (harm profit, reduce quality, create inequality) without providing any evidence or explanation for how this will happen.
Logical fallacy 3. False dilemma: You only suggest only two options (real quality ingredients or simulacra of a burger) and ignore any other possible alternatives or middle grounds.
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Schrodingers_tombola t1_je3y7u3 wrote
Well I guess we'll have to wait and see if my logical fallacies end up being accurate.
pearastic t1_je3ybyi wrote
Lab-grown food would be amazing at finally lowering the amounts of animals suffering in farms.
ScanianGoose t1_je41aq7 wrote
But the fear tenderises the meat and adds flavor.
pearastic t1_je41jdg wrote
:(
Schrodingers_tombola t1_je3yu4f wrote
I can't deny that, and particularly for fresh meat, but I would rather people just age veg and stuff like they are supposed to.
pearastic t1_je3yz3w wrote
"Like they are supposed to"?
PugnaciousHippie t1_je3zz35 wrote
Yeah, he means meat straight off the bone, raw and bloody. Seafood straight off the spear/hook. Milk straight from the nipple. And people should only forage for their fruits and vegetables. All modern advancements must be stopped. We must protect Italy at all costs.
pearastic t1_je4126q wrote
I'll never understand this kind of thinking. I don't know why appeal to nature is actually a convincing argument for some. Oh well.
Schrodingers_tombola t1_je42ewg wrote
No I mean people should reduce consumption of meat in general by eating more veggies, lentils beans and pulses, rather than lab-grown stuff. It's something we all can do now to make a difference without having to wait for lab-grown stuff, and it will make us all healthier in the long run.
Processed meats and cheeses should be high-quality and infrequent treats, rather than forming the bedrock of every meal.
Schrodingers_tombola t1_je42ux3 wrote
I don't think Italian products like Parma Ham or Parmesan are natural, so I don't think it is an appeal to nature. I'm not a paleo moron. I'm just sick of people waiting for tech solutions to things they could do straight away, when the tech solutions end up being worse anyway. I remember when uber and Tesla were going to have self-driving taxis by now and we wouldn't need to buy our own cars. All the money wasted on uber most places would have been better off spending on their existing taxis, public transport and cycling. Now second-hand cars are even more expensive than ever (not ubers fault, to be fair).
I just can't help but feel the same will apply to lab grown meat, and that we'd be better off solving the problem of people eating too much meat by having them eat less meat, rather than delaying the reckoning.
pearastic t1_je4394y wrote
Most people can never be convinced of a vegan diet. I mean, I'm not actually vegan. The lab-grown meats could bring an organic (pun intended) change to society. If it will be available and as good as real meat (and maybe even more affordable), a lot more people could be convinced, thus maybe even opening the door to legislation partially banning farm animals, or enforcing better conditions for them.
It's not good enough that technically people could switch over to vegetables, because most people won't.
Dark_Delusion t1_je3sx63 wrote
Lab-grown food isn't even an economically viable threat to any form of "tradition" at the moment.
What is the use of this law?