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macross1984 t1_jeayn1e wrote

Anyone know why South Africa became so pro-Russian?


Wundei t1_jeb1n4z wrote

From UnHerd - “The old guard of the ruling African National Congress, who still haunt every crevice of government here, have not forgotten that Russian support was crucial in their 80-year anti-apartheid struggle, finally won in a negotiated settlement in 1994. Many of the ageing elites studied at Russian or Bloc country universities. They may have forgotten the USSR’s egalitarian mantras in their rush to become wealthy, but nostalgia still lingers. The Russians have not been slow to capitalise on it.

Jacob Zuma, the disgraced former President currently facing criminal charges over alleged corruption in a 1999 arms deal, commissioned Russia’s Rosatom energy company to build eight nuclear plants in 2014. If completed, at a cost of £50 billion, the plants would have provided 23% of South Africa’s energy — and given the Russians an effective stranglehold over the country’s economy. Karyn Maughan and Kirsten Pearson, in their 2022 book, Nuclear, suggest the deal was clinched after Zuma received medical treatment in Russia for poisoning. The former President alleged a toxin had been administered by one of his wives at the behest of the CIA. No proof of this poisoning has ever been provided, but there is plenty of evidence of a strong bond forged between presidents Zuma and Putin afterwards — the latter reportedly knowing a bit about poisons.”


readerOP t1_jedxkt5 wrote

>African National Congress

basically the same as Indian National Congress. A lot of old parties are royally pissed off at current BJP govt for trying to distance India from Russia. As soon as BJP is ousted there will be major overhauls in EA to bring back the balance. Thankfully socialist wings of american media is very understanding and supportive of this. The reason is BJP is heavily pro towards neolib and conservative wings of USA and turning India into something that US can use the shoulders of to shoot at China, which in the longer turn is detrimental to India as it will be forced into conflicts with China and US has a track record of backstabbing their allies, so it's better for the future of India to not get into conflict with China or Russia and let the power of US war hawks dwindle instead. Modi is trying every propaganda to avoid this, but hopefully he will get kicked out in 2024 and we can distance ourselves from US to avoid war(doesn't have to be conventional).


blippityblop t1_jeb13dn wrote

The current president seems to blame NATO for Russia's aggression.

> Ramaphosa blamed NATO's proximity to Russian borders for the war: "The war could have been avoided if NATO had heeded the warnings from amongst its own leaders and officials over the years that its eastward expansion would lead to greater, not less, instability in the region."[130]


Adhdbanana t1_jeb7yu1 wrote

I get the feeling that the US is going to cancel their aid package. russia wants to be "sphere of influence" they must have the cash.