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KimCureAll t1_iucuw2v wrote

We know how dangerous that can be. Let's not forget Russia shooting down a Korean airline in 1983 and a Malaysian airline in 2014. Did Russia ever say "sorry!" or "we'll pay!" - actually, no.

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drs43821 t1_iudn0bq wrote

To be fair that plane intruded Russian airspace without authorization because they switched their navigation mode to attitude control instead of internal reference. But you bet Russia if presented with a suspected spy plane, they will actually shoot it down

This event also prompted the US government to release the use of GPS to civilian

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[deleted] t1_iud8xp6 wrote

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cohberg t1_iud9f4v wrote

You are incorrect. Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down by pro-Russian forces in 2014.

298 people died.

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Usual-Limit6396 t1_iud9jxl wrote

Sorry, but you’ve moved the goal posts to be “pro Russian forces” instead of Russia. Tell the truth and be honest.

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michelsapin t1_iud9o3t wrote

Hu? He's obviously talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 not MH370

Nice try with the racism deflection! A tad too obvious, but nice try!

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Usual-Limit6396 t1_iud9s4p wrote

How is it obvious? It’s like saying the New Zealanders (pro American forces) used agent orange against children in Vietnam.

Be honest. No need to lie. Justice is already in our side. Slava Ukraine.

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Desurvivedsignator t1_iudbcky wrote

The Russian Federation is the legal successor to the Soviet Union, so they were right about that.

The BUK that shot down Malaysia 370 was supplied by Russia to troops that were fighting on Russian orders, with Russian personnel among them and with direct support from the Kremlin. That goalpost has been moved a couple of centimeters, if at all.

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Usual-Limit6396 t1_iudbgaq wrote

Legal smeagol, let’s be honest. And centimeters are centimeters, trust me. I’m a jelqer. Be honest! Ukraine Slava!

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Desurvivedsignator t1_iudgh39 wrote

I'm honest.

Dishonest is claiming that the Russians didn't have their finger on the trigger when MH370 was shot down.

It's also dishonest to claim that the USSR and the RF are two different entities. Heck, even Putin would dispute that!

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Usual-Limit6396 t1_iudgppf wrote

Wrong. You are just making stuff up. It’s just like when it was reported about Russians paying for bounties in US soldiers in Afghanistan. Everyone believed it and reported it because, “it’s ok to be racist against Russians.”

As for USSR and Russia I don’t agree with Putin on pretty much everything, so appealing to your daddy won’t do any good with me!

Be honest. Let’s kick their asses, but let’s make sure it’s via truth and not assumptions with no proof! (That rhymed making it double effective! Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦

Then, when we win, let’s help them build back better, too. So this never ever happens again. Stop the hate. Live in truth.

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Desurvivedsignator t1_iue890n wrote

You're insinuating that Putin's "my daddy", but are following the Russian propaganda's talking points to the letter, e.g. with the "anti-russian racism" bit.

Care to explain where I'm wrong? Where did the BUK come from?

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Usual-Limit6396 t1_iudat1p wrote

Yep, if someone wants Ukraine to win with truth and not lies, downvote them into oblivion and say they are a Russian bot. A winning formula. Go team!

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global_erik t1_iud0d7y wrote

It means overflight fees for the Russian government. Thanks for funding the war smh.

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Working-Form1858 t1_iuer23s wrote

You do know Ukraine and Russia are still doing business with each other?

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Schtick_ t1_iucvakf wrote

Yes I’m sure it’s the lack of direct flights that are the reasons no one wants to go to Hong Kong gets popcorn to see the cavalcade of travels suddenly deciding they want to go to Hong Kong

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KimCureAll t1_iucw053 wrote

Hongkonger protester at the Chinese consulate traveling from Manchester back to Hong Kong over Russian airspace to drink tea with communist officials? - heck yea! Count me in!!! LOL

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TheJazzButter t1_iucvv40 wrote

Well, they certainly don't need to be flying out of American airports then. I'm sure their new Russian friends will be happy to fill their airplanes' seats.

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Rutankrd t1_iud3y88 wrote

Along with Emirates currently crossing Russian airspace from San Francisco , Air India , El Al QATAR and a host of Chinese Carriers ( remember Hong Kong is increasingly just another province) and Turkish or and Air Serbia !

All above route flights through Russian air space every day and also to the US

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fane1967 t1_iucwub9 wrote

Gotta be at least suicidal to go that route. The maker of such stupid decision is a cold blooded criminal.

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KimCureAll t1_iucxw4g wrote

Putin must be really desperate for "success stories" at this point even if it means shooting down more commercial airplanes. I really do have to wonder why the decision to open Russian airspace given the current situation and Russia's horrible track record. The people manning the missiles are incompetent.

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Woodlog82 t1_iucuxcd wrote

I would watch out for those air defence missiles. Some of those guys have a very itchy trigger finger.

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KimCureAll t1_iucw6sh wrote

All their fingers are itchy "Pull that trigger, come on, do it, for Kremlin glory"

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Woodlog82 t1_iucwkio wrote

"I don't care about country. Russian, Dutch, Chinese,... Finger is itching, towarisch!"

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AltNationReality t1_iud5j54 wrote

IMO... the US should ban any flights that overfly russia as a matter of maintaining the appearance of solidarity with Ukraine.

I'm sorry but russia is off limits IMO. They want to be bullies... let them play in their sandbox all by themselves. Do not allow flights that overfly russia to land in cities that are allied with Ukraine.

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ITryHardByo t1_iud877y wrote

Not only for solidarity, but it's literally a life and death situation, russia has shot down more than one commercial airliner in these conflict areas before, and that's when things were calmer and people were supposedly better trained, wouldn't want to try my luck now with a bunch of untrained conscripts in this War/PTSD/trigger-finger/FUBAR atmosphere.

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Traditional-Trip7617 t1_iudb4xv wrote

Money is the one great ruler and the us spent a lot on ukraine they’re going to do it to make back the money

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ForeignWin9265 t1_iud1iyv wrote

Lmao yeah sure, let get my luggage ready so I can go to China from the US crossing Russian air space

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postart777 t1_iudqpzs wrote

This is not going to turn out well.

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spinnerspence t1_iudzhuw wrote

Fly at your own risk. Those ruxxkeex are known to flip in a moments notice. Can you say grain deal?

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grices t1_iuejujk wrote

Not surprice with the current going rate on a one way flight out of russia.

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TAc20220920 t1_iuf2ueu wrote

Shit I have a Cathay flight from London to HK by late November...

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waisonline99 t1_iuftobz wrote

Have they forgotten about MH17?

You'd have to be mad to get on those planes.

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newman_2019 t1_iud0cn8 wrote

Chinese airline these days so pretty safe for them.

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