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[deleted] t1_ityhkd1 wrote

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isawagoose t1_ityp8eq wrote

It wasn't a waste at all. It made the arms industry all the money it was supposed to, and then some.

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torridesttube69 t1_ityxksc wrote

Are you suggesting that the arms industry somehow tricked the government into fighting in Afghanistan? Or how does your statement make any sense?

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isawagoose t1_ityxw6y wrote

No, I'm saying that many politicians had financial stakes in the industry, which was a large contributing factor to starting and prolonging the war. Did you already forget about Dick Cheney? It hasn't been that long.

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torridesttube69 t1_ityyacd wrote

Seems like it would be a lot easier to just invest in certain stocks and then give the company government subsidies or something like that.

I am not American, I am just saying what I think seems most logical - don't know what Dick Cheney has done.

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Vendetta4Avril t1_itz1y7m wrote

Dick Chaney was CEO of Halliburton Oil until 2000, then he became Vice President for George W Bush. He’s considered the most powerful VP in US history.

9/11 happens in 2001, and Cheney was a huge proponent for invading Iraq, claiming they were hosting WMDs and Al-Qaeda. Neither claim had any solid evidence, but the US invaded Iraq, nonetheless.

Halliburton and Chaney make a shit ton of money from the oil reserves in Iraq. US terrorizes the Middle East for 20 year without cause. Chaney pays no consequences.

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agoodfriendofyours t1_itze5de wrote

Dick Cheney shot a man in the face with a shotgun and that man apologized to him on national television.

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Vendetta4Avril t1_itzf6sr wrote

This is also true.

Edit: he is also an opponent of LBGTQ+ rights, and his daughter is a lesbian.

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particular-potatoe t1_itz1lna wrote

What’s often overlooked about the War in Afghanistan is that Bush was offered peace by the Taliban leader with a clear exit strategy after the US invaded. He instead decided to remain in Afghanistan to nation build. Part of that decision was to enrich contractors (the use of which exploded during the Afghan/Iraq wars). Dick Cheney and other Bush-era politicians were shareholders in military contracting firms. They went on to launch the wholly unjustified war in Iraq for the same reason.

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isawagoose t1_ityywmw wrote

They do that, too. But when the country is amped up for a war of revenge, and you and your buddies are corrupt and in a position to start that war and profit immensely from it, you start that war.

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succubus-slayer t1_itz3zmw wrote

You almost seem to forget that getting a foothold near oil deposits in the region didn’t have some role.

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SomnAmbalamps t1_itz7aee wrote

The Afghan people were given 20 years and infinitely more resources to do what Ukraine has done to a larger, superior force in under a year with a fraction of one percent what Afghanistan had. The afghans threw down their weapons without a single shot fired. Fuck em. That’s not the US fault.

The US military was never once repulsed from Afghanistan and it left of its own accord by its own schedule with not a consideration at all to whatever the hell the Taliban thought it was doing. This was a failure, but not of the US military.

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Sketti_n_butter t1_iu0fyqb wrote

Afghanistan is not a country. There is no national identity in the region. What we call "Afghanistan" on a map are basically groups of tribes. The idea that America was going to somehow, go into Afghanistan, bomb the shit out of it, and then bring the warring tribes together was never on the table. We're talking about thousands of years of culture and identity. There was not a chance that was happening. Besides, even if it did,would that be considered genocide?

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SomnAmbalamps t1_iu2k6kz wrote

By that same definition, neither is Canada, the US, Mexico, Spain, etc. Make it work or don’t. That’s not really anyone else’s responsibility.

I love how people like to point out how “colonial powers” drew the maps of the Middle East after conquering them without regards to the different groups which actually live there. Yea they did. This is also how every single country in Europe was created as well as all of the other countries every where else in the world. This is how countries are made. Yes. Uh huh. Yep. That’s what they did.

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Baachs91 t1_itzo624 wrote

The waste was leaving after that investment. The US should have been there permanently

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Alan_Smithee_ t1_iu02kao wrote

They shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

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Some_Yesterday3882 t1_iu0ef84 wrote

Nah better to leave it a breading ground and safe haven for Islamic terrorist networks.

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Alan_Smithee_ t1_iu0f8o6 wrote

How’s that working out for you, champ?

>breading ground

I love me a good Bolani.

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Sketti_n_butter t1_iu0g6bk wrote

For what purpose? To try out our military equipment and keep our soldiers active and give them something to do while working our the bugs in new technology?we can do that without invading a country and hurting/killing people who never wanted us there.

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