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NaCly_Asian t1_iuj6ju9 wrote
so, what incentive does Russia have to not go scorched earth and burn all of Europe?
shalo62 t1_iuj7d9u wrote
Any attempt to burn Europe would be not only the end of Russia as a potential threat, but the end of Russia in every way shape or form. That's a pretty clear incentive.
NaCly_Asian t1_iuj8ttx wrote
"Russia has to be dismantled or renewed to a point it will never be a threat again."
sounds like no real difference to the above quote. They may as well make sure to ensure their enemies don't live long enough to gloat or claim victory over Russia.
shalo62 t1_iuja2zv wrote
There's a huge difference between having a future where you dont have an army but your kids grow up and have a school to go to and an alternative where nothing can live on the soil of your cities for the next thousand years.
Like I said, the incentive is there. If you can't see the difference, then that's down to you.
NaCly_Asian t1_iujc8ti wrote
so, Russia would be defenseless at the mercy of the West / former Soviet bloc...
I would rather make sure that
>nothing can live on the soil of your cities for the next thousand years.
also applies to my enemies while I still can.
DivinityAI t1_iujmf2u wrote
russia can only blame themselves. Noone forced them to attack Ukraine. They aren't fightning NATO in Ukraine either as their claim.
butterhoscotch t1_iuk4cct wrote
You shouldnt be downvoted for voicing a valid point. From the russian point of view, I mean people expect rational behavior from tyrants and crackpots like Putin, who thinks his alexander the great?
Yeah 20 years ago id have said no way would they be so stupid as to provoke the west into all out war.
Today I say, anythings possible.
hikingmike t1_iujgi9u wrote
They could be a prosperous country with larger economy, more trade, higher standard of living, higher life expectancy, more freedoms, stronger presence internationally. They already have a strong background in culture, sciences, tech, etc. and huge income from natural resources. That seems like a good incentive. It would greatly benefit the vast majority of people anyway. Maybe it wouldn’t benefit… Putin?
Rampant_Moderator t1_iuji1px wrote
Russia to become a "ward lords" country but with nuclear power... "Leaders" of such countries are going in war with whoever then can (Putin:rebuilding old USSR), preferably attacking smaller foreign power ofc. Europe is too big and has at least 1 active nuclear power.
autotldr t1_iuj2xom wrote
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)
> French Member of European Parliament Stéphane Séjourné, who chairs a Renew Europe Group, says Russia's strikes targeting Ukraine's critical infrastructure constitute a war crime, which must be investigated, while the international community must take seriously Kyiv's claims of an ongoing genocide of Ukrainians by the Russian forces.
> Earlier, Foreign Minister of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba, who spoke at a briefing for foreign media, called on the international community to see Russian attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure as part of genocide of the Ukrainian people being committed by the Russian Federation.
> In turn, Lithuanian legislator Paulius Saudargas said Lithuania was one of the first countries to recognize Russia's war against Ukraine "as a genocide and the atrocities committed by Russian army as war crimes.
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Rampant_Moderator t1_iuj382i wrote
"Russia has to be dismantled or renewed to a point it will never be a threat again."
This is a very common call from many politics who experienced relations with Russia in last few decades. I don't think it's simply to "rule the world" anymore, but because Russia became so barbaric that there is no other choice.