marc297 t1_iuil51p wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:35 PM

Reply to comment by Roughneck16 in Iran's Growing Protests | r/WorldNews Reddit Talk 🎙️ by dieyoufool3

Genuinely curious if regime changes have happened without guns. Are they 100% necessary?

Spring-Both t1_iuimn9i wrote on October 31, 2022 at 4:45 PM

The bigger issue is even if it does happen it’s rarely a good thing. Usually someone just as bad if not worse takes over in the chaos. A regime change without weapons when the other side has then and aren’t afraid to use them though is extremely unlikely.

erfan226 t1_iujbdvv wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:30 PM

Someone worse? The Islamic Republic is the incarnation of pure evil.

Spring-Both t1_iujbzcs wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:34 PM

Haven’t you ever heard the phrase “old boss is a jerk till you meet the new boss” it can always get worse. No matter how evil the current regime is there’s always someone out there who is even worse. You can disagree with me all you want but historically speaking regime changes rarely work out for the better feel free to look it up. People always like to point out of French Revolution but then ignore all the bad that happened during and after it was one step forward two steps back.

erfan226 t1_iujdc0a wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:43 PM

I know what you mean. But the thing is, one should know about the context. That's why "historically speaking", this is one of those cases where the revolution might actually work for better. There are not many alternatives currently, but the people want to choose a new type of give after overthrowing this one. I'm not sure how familiar you are with IR, but there's nothing that they haven't done to the country and its people (maybe except bombing the people like they did in Syria). So any other alternative might actually be a little better. But that's what the people should decide.

Spring-Both t1_iujf9ri wrote on October 31, 2022 at 7:56 PM

The how bad it is doesn’t really affect how successful the new system will be and even I can think of ways for them to be more evil. I hope it works out for them I honestly do but the odds are against them even if they succeed.

erfan226 t1_iujfxnp wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:00 PM

Sure. That's totally correct. I'm just saying with a revolution there is a possibility of things getting better. But without it, one can be sure that things will get much worse.

66stang351 t1_iuiu1vb wrote on October 31, 2022 at 5:34 PM

USSR fell without much in terms of fighting. The coup tried to roll out tanks but it definitely didn't work

Spring-Both t1_iuiwtcy wrote on October 31, 2022 at 5:52 PM

It’s unfortunately a different scenario the ussr had been collapsing for a long time and that’s not the case with Iran. Also the big thing is religious fanaticism, as long as they think they’re doing gods work they will mow down anyone who gets in their way they’ve proved that already.