oksapar t1_iuh2s5z wrote
Reply to comment by piercet_3dPrint in U.N. says it agreed with Turkey, Ukraine on plan to move 16 vessels under Black Sea grain deal by alumidi
> We go along with them because turkey is a NATO state, but we don't have to.
You have to since it's Turkish waters and you need Turkey's permission to pass through it. Turkey and Turkish public wants to avoid a war as much as possible, so Turkey might refuse to give access to US carriers just like it refused to give access to US troops into Iraq in 2003.
StukaTR t1_iuh6kd5 wrote
>just like it refused to give access to US troops into Iraq in 2003.
Wholly different set of events. In 2003, Erdogan gov failed to get the required amount of votes through parliament to allow US soldiers basing in Turkey.
Montreux is different. It's an internationally binding agreement, one which we like a lot. Turkey doesn't need US or US ships to help secure Black Sea. It's our sea.
oksapar t1_iuhcc8s wrote
> one which we like a lot. Turkey doesn't need US or US ships to help secure Black Sea. It's our sea.
Yes, I didn't say anything different, except Turkey might deny US carriers access to Blacksea as it's Turkish waters..
dragdritt t1_iuh8ud5 wrote
>It's our sea.
Seeing as Russia is doing whatever it wants, that statement doesn't mean much
StukaTR t1_iuh90hq wrote
Are we at war with Russia? Is US?
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