Adsuppal t1_iyc8wvw wrote
India must feel good about getting courted by US, China and Russia at the same time.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycb3q4 wrote
It's actually a very dangerous game, If India angers the West It's economy and Geopolitcal situation is fucked, If it angers China it's economy and Geopolitical situation is fucked, If it angers Russia it's Economy is safe but Geopolitics is massively fucked.
It's interesting also in the fact that Historically, Both China and the US have never been Indian allies, yet angering them hurts India the most but Russia has been an ally and hurting them would pain the least.
Indian people also don't share much interests with Western citizens, other than capitalism and Being Anti-China. Plus there is common rhetoric in India that after the West has 'dealt' with China, India will be next on the chopping block. There is fundemental distrust of the West in India especially in Western hegemony, and most Westerns do have the idea that 'India' is just an alliance of convienience and Indias history of Western allignment is almost none. Suffice to say both sides have good reasons to distrust the other side and the Ukraine war shows that Cold War scars are still remembered by India and 'gotten over' by the West.
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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycfp56 wrote
English speakers make up 10% of Indian population. That's 140 million English speakers. That mean that the 1.2 billion Indians that dont speak English don't consume American media.
navneet2131 t1_iycgk59 wrote
if you think there's nothing in common then that's okay but don't speak on the behalf of a billion people.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycmc9k wrote
Alright that's a fair point. Also I am not saying there is nothing in common, So much as there is alot working against an Indo-Western alliance.
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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycg7p4 wrote
And those 90% are a majority of Indias vote bank
vegasea t1_iyd2qca wrote
That's rather presumptuous of you. Maybe they consume with subtitles. I watched Squid Games and Parasite and I don't speak Korean.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd61pk wrote
I'll put it like this - in India there is no lack of entertainement industry or cultural expression, Unlike most countries most Indians consume Indian Movies and TV shows. The box office hits of most of India are always Indian movies with the only exception ever being Avatar and Endgame. Fun fact - India produces 2000 movies a year, That's more than the rest of the world combined.
Choice_Celebration52 t1_iye3r72 wrote
It’s not quantity it’s quality ld rather watch one movie I enjoy rather than 100 movies I don’t.
introdittor t1_iydhei1 wrote
dude ever heard of dubbing.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iydvg5i wrote
Yes dubbing does occur, Not many see dubs though. There is tough competition for Cinema culture in India unless you are some Big movie by hollywood standards you are barely going to be noticed in India.
nopedoesntwork t1_iycgjzf wrote
> Russia has been an ally
The (previous) communist party has been an ally as the UK/US (not "the west") bullied India. This communist party was the enemy of the KGB - the guys who run Russia today.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd0ieo wrote
Alright just explain to me why you Westerners keep trying to reduce the Indo-Russian relationship? It's always weird that you guys say that - "Russia didn't help India, It was the USSR', " Russia didn't help India, It was the Comunist government that did" And "Russia was not an Indian ally it was just a coincidence". Its like saying that the West and Japan are not allies it's just or like the West and SK are not allies. Just denying the history won't suddenly fix it.
nopedoesntwork t1_iyd7wmq wrote
The problem is that the Indian government is using this argument as a convenient excuse to support a criminal, authoritarian regime, that doesn't do it's people nor the world any good when in reality there is no obligation at all what so ever, but only economic interest.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd80ap wrote
Yea but denying the relationship doesn't just solve the issue, does it?
nopedoesntwork t1_iydctyy wrote
Maybe I over interpreted your comment.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iydv7o9 wrote
It's alright man, mistakes are made. Water under the bridge.
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AngryAmericanGoral t1_iyca7jc wrote
Nice troll account
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alpha_dk t1_iycgf2x wrote
Wait... So you're telling me America will treat countries like allies unless they start working against American interests, when America will stop supporting them? How scandalous
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd0pqk wrote
American interests keep changing though right? So isn't that exactly what - " We will use you till you are useful and then dispose of you means? "
alpha_dk t1_iyd0zk0 wrote
Yes, times change. And if a country chooses not to change with it, and instead starts "challenging" their previous allies like OP suggested, then it's natural those allies would stop supporting them.
Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd1el4 wrote
But what exactly did the Kurds or Afghans do to not suddenly be enemies of the US? Even China has not made a single aggressive move against a recognised US ally (Albeit Taiwan does count, So this one may slide). I don't want to defend China, But it's not like they started a trade war yo delibrately weaken the other side.
alpha_dk t1_iyd25ch wrote
Well, in the case of Kurds, you'll have to mention a specific group because we don't ally with ethnicities, and as far as I know we still support many of our Kurdish allies.
In the case of Afghans, they're not our enemies - however, they largely decided not to fight an invading Taliban army. So it seems like allowing the Taliban to take over is actually how we supported them in what they want. As it turns out, the country wasn't willing to fight the Taliban, and America is more than willing to let them do that so long as we don't think it will lead to more attacks on America. They'll have to live with the results, not much we can do about it.
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