Moon_Moon200 t1_iy3ymik wrote on November 28, 2022 at 4:02 PM

Reply to comment by Hirronimus in US eyes long-range rockets for Ukraine as arms supplies dwindle by likeiamnoone

Because NATO closing the skies would mean soldiers using weapons to attack and kill Russian soldiers using planes, which could be interpreted as a declaration of war.

On the other hand, we cannot give just give the weapons to Ukraine. They would need months of training beforehand. And those weapons in particular are not plentiful.

Take israel for example, they have around 5 iron domes that everyone was calling they should give them all to Ukraine while being attacked themselves. You also need a few of them just to protect a single city. You would need a large part of NATO weapons reserve to keep up with Russia country wide missile barrage

imjesusbitch t1_iy5husa wrote on November 28, 2022 at 10:08 PM

Russia sent their own pilots and planes to Korea, and killed Americans with them. That wasn't considered an act of war then, would be no different now.

Moon_Moon200 t1_iy5pkdk wrote on November 28, 2022 at 11:03 PM

That was the Soviet Union during the cold war. They denied their involvement and the US government was the one who chose not to press the investigation to avoid escalation, like now. It was a good test after all to try technology and combat tactics without pushing WW3

In this case however, a closed skies escenario would mean a constant stream of missiles attacks and anti air weapons from NATO territory or any of its bases, weapons that the Russian can track given enough attacks, and that we cannot know that Putin wont seek retaliation, so is better not to test the limits knowing the possible outcome.