stalinsilver t1_iy6mkta wrote
Literally Importing a voter base
drewster23 t1_iy6sre4 wrote
You think migrants shouldn't ever be allowed to vote...?
stalinsilver t1_iy6w7vy wrote
Maybe you should check out who majority of Turkish Germans or Turkish diaspora in Europe voted for in Turkey. Same for migrants lot of other countries. Allowing these migrants to vote means these dictators or countries like Poland, Hungary, Russia etc can influence election It also incentives parties to promote migrants to create a future vote Base
Only people born and brought up in Germany should be allowed to vote that is the children of migrants born in Germany.
kraenk12 t1_iy7p5aa wrote
Except those Turks you are talking about already WERE born and brought up in Germany.
jainmehul973 t1_iy7i1w7 wrote
Lmao so a person who has moved lived here for 10 years paid taxed all that time shouldn’t be able to vote? You people are crazy!
mithik t1_iy7lwwu wrote
By the same argument shoul a person living and paying taxes in different country lose a right to vote in his native country?
kraenk12 t1_iy7p7pi wrote
I say yes.
Famous_Two_3574 t1_iy8hmm6 wrote
Yes.
sm_raleigh t1_iy7neg7 wrote
As someone who has immigrated here, fuck you. I have spent years learning the language, customs, and working my ass off. You are not the gatekeeper of who gets to vote in Germany. Go back to your cave, troll.
drewster23 t1_iy6wlg8 wrote
Yeah mate you know you could've just fucken said yes that's your belief than wasting your time explaining your racist pov.
You think Westen immigrants don't exist in German either or something?
and refugees aren't citizens.
stalinsilver t1_iy6wtet wrote
I literally mentioned polish Hungary. Russia. Should I add Romania too
drewster23 t1_iy6x1fe wrote
Hungary , and russia are part of the west now?
Poland would be the only one.
Yet you still dont understand refugees aren't immigrants.
And you need citizenship to vote.
stalinsilver t1_iy6xtje wrote
When did Polish, Turkish, Russian become Refugees. They were always immigrants .
drewster23 t1_iy6y1la wrote
Mb, Okay so you think no migrants anywhere should be allowed to earn citizenship. (because then they could vote)
Got it,
Definitely racist.
But i understand.
stalinsilver t1_iy6ynea wrote
No the rules should not be relaxed like Germany is doing now. They should mandate single citizenship too
landertxia93 t1_iy754gt wrote
The kinds of immigrants that Germany has? The ones that vote for Erdogan? No
mhornberger t1_iy6qshc wrote
And workers, consumers, and taxpayers.
stalinsilver t1_iy6wpih wrote
Or people who drive the minimum wage down so corporations can keep the wages down.
nice_cunt69 t1_iy7hn5f wrote
Germany isn't America
Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho t1_iy7nsmx wrote
America isn't America either in that case. Regions of the US with more immigrants have higher wage growth. The states that don't have any immigrants to 'keep wages down', are poorer, and have slower growth.
stalinsilver t1_iy7hu3i wrote
Ah, Mexicans in US. Eastern Europeans in Germany
nice_cunt69 t1_iy7hx9o wrote
As I said, Germany isn't america
kraenk12 t1_iy7pemb wrote
Except in Germany those people are just working illegally for wages way below the minimum wage. I don’t think there’s much of a difference tbh.
nice_cunt69 t1_iy7r4ja wrote
Lol
kraenk12 t1_iy7w26u wrote
So you want to tell me that’s different in the US? What’s so funny?
nice_cunt69 t1_iy7wcf7 wrote
Firstly there aren't nearly as many illegal immigrants even on per capita basis so makes it much harder to break the laws and labour laws are stricter in Germany with higher unionization rates.
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Gammelpreiss t1_iy830zl wrote
Mate, as a German I have no idea what you are laughing about. The low wage sector has been steadily expanded over the last 20 years and Germany has a huge black market issue.
nice_cunt69 t1_iy84gi7 wrote
I never said it's perfect, just that's its not as bad as America.
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