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AlexandersWonder t1_ixoajj3 wrote

Reply to comment by dowhatmelo in France moves closer to making abortion a constitutional right by Lakerlion

You’re right, it’s not. But this about abortion, not murder.

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dowhatmelo t1_ixofaoq wrote

if you call a baby a fetus and a murder an abortion, suddenly it becomes all good with you.

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AlexandersWonder t1_ixogg99 wrote

Before fetal viability it’s really just a clump of cells, it’s a glorified tumor. After fetal viability it was never really legal to abort anyways, and I think most people would agree with that approach.

But also, if fetuses are people then why don’t they get citizenship rights when they’re conceived in the US instead of at birth? Why don’t pregnant mothers get child tax breaks? Why aren’t fetuses counted in the census? Seems like the law doesn’t exactly regard them as people either.

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dowhatmelo t1_ixogtnw wrote

Mate they’re never going to limit abortions to just the first few weeks which is the only period you could legitimately call it a clump of cells. This sort of stuff always pushed later and later meanwhile actual fetal viability gets earlier and earlier as medical tech improves. As for legal classifications that’s a bad faith argument, there’s always stuff you can do at some ages and not others. Why can 18 year olds vote and buy guns but not drink alcohol etc. it’s not a proof of anything.

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AlexandersWonder t1_ixoikjh wrote

Viability takes quite a bit longer than the “first couple weeks” of a pregnancy. Before Roe was overturned in the US, viability was where the law drew the line nationwide.

People below 18 are still entitled to citizenship, still get counted in the census, are still eligible for child tax breaks. Pretty disingenuous to compare those to guns and voting and alcohol, which are widely regarded as adult things which require some degree of maturity to handle responsibly.

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