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DTHCND t1_iyc80jm wrote

Reply to comment by MeInMyOwnWords in Canadian federal police are investigating widespread interference by China in Canadian affairs, including its "democratic processes," the nation's top cop has said in a letter to a parliamentary committee but without detailing the allegations by DoremusJessup

That's not what the RCMP actually does. It's just a common misconception since lots of Canadians think of them as the "Canadian FBI." In Canada, policing of the criminal code is solely a responsibility of the provinces. Provinces can either establish their own police force, like Ontario and Quebec did, or they can contract out policing to the RCMP like every other province opted to. That's why you don't see any RCMP officers in either Ontario nor Quebec, or at least extremely rarely.

Some provinces move this responsibility further down to municipal governments, where relevant. In Ontario and Quebec, municipal governments can either contract out the provincial police force or they can establish their own, like Toronto and Montreal have. Municipalities in some other provinces have a similar deal, but the alternative to establishing their own force is contracting out the RCMP instead of the non-existent provincial police force.

In addition to contract policing for some provinces, the RCMP is also tasked with national security, which is why the RCMP is involved in this story at all.

There are some exceptions to this, however. Like they do police some federal laws that are not the criminal code. And they police organized crime and financial crimes. And some provinces have opted to have the RCMP contracted out for a subset of the criminal code rather than the whole thing.

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MeInMyOwnWords t1_iyeu6ro wrote

> Investigate serious and organized crime, financial crime and criminal activity related to national security; Conduct international law enforcement capacity-building, support Canadian international peace operations and advance domestic police operations through enhanced visibility, reach and influence abroad.

investigates serious…crime.

National security is included in this. I have no misconceptions having worked on various contracts with various agencies.

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DTHCND t1_iyez22g wrote

> investigates serious…crime.

You're misreading your quote. It's not saying "serious crime and organized crime." It's saying "crime that is both serious and organized." "Serious and organized crime" is what Canadian law calls organized crime in general. You can read more about the definition of "serious and organized crime" here: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/soc-cgco/index-eng.htm

And as I said before, organized crime and financial crime are two of the more notable exceptions where the RCMP is involved. But they are not involved in criminal investigations in general, serious or otherwise, unless contracted out by the relevant province.

> National security is included in this.

Right, that's what I said. But national security is not the same as criminal policing, which is a provincial power.

So no, aside from the three exceptions that I already stated, the RCMP does not have a mandate to investigate criminal matters where not contracted out.

> I have no misconceptions having worked on various contracts with various agencies.

Ah yes, same here. Totally. Believe me bro.

And even if you are telling the truth, it apparently doesn't mean much.

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MeInMyOwnWords t1_iyez8an wrote

You’re a pedant lol. They investigate serious criminal matters. That’s a fact.

You come here with your AKCHSHUALLY bullshit looking for an argument.

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DTHCND t1_iyezjf9 wrote

And you have a reading comprehension issue. They do not investigate serious crimes with the exception of organized crime and financial crimes (or where contracted out by the province). That's a fact.

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MeInMyOwnWords t1_iyezzgu wrote

You’re agreeing with me in the dumbest way possible.

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DTHCND t1_iyf0t6r wrote

Bruh.

You: "The RCMP is the police agency that investigates serious crime."

Me: "Provincial police forces investigate all crime, serious or not, except for where the RCMP is the only police agency to start with. They also investigate two very specific crimes: organized and financial.

Idk how else to explain it to you. Practically all crimes in Canada, serious or not, are defined by the Criminal Code. Provinces have exclusive jurisdiction over the Criminal Code. That's all there is to it.

If parliament makes something a crime outside the criminal code, then enforcement is federal jurisdiction. But that's only happened with organized crime and money laundering. All other crimes, serious or not, are provincial responsibility.

Again, to reiterate, since you have trouble reading: the RCMP is not tasked with enforcing "serious" crime.

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MeInMyOwnWords t1_iyf1g1i wrote

You are truly hopeless, “bruh”.

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DTHCND t1_iyf2c2j wrote

Lol good for you, I'm out. You can believe the RCMP enforces "serious crime" if you want. You'd be an idiot that believes the wrong thing and doesn't even understand the basics of our constitution, but hey. You do you.

You're too much of a narcissist to admit you're wrong, and this feels like talking to a brick wall. Even in the face of evidence that you found yourself proving you wrong, you still refuse to get your head out of your ass. So adios, have a good day.

Edit: And all this because I left a friendly comment explaining our constitution divides policing powers differently than the US constitution, and that the RCMP thus fulfils a different role than the FBI.

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