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ScratchUrBalls t1_ixxjuyq wrote

How would that even be possible at this point? That ship has sailed for at least the next few generations.

In addition, Russia is going to collapse again. When, not if.

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Maleficent-Number-10 t1_ixy2beh wrote

If Venezuela or Iran or North Korea or Cuba or Turkmenistan hasn’t collapsed, I don’t see how Russia will.

Live worse and poorer, yes, but I have faith in the mafia state keeping full control of the sheep that decided not to leave.

Source: I’m a local

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porncrank t1_ixyexxt wrote

Yeah, sanctions hurt, but they don't generally cause regime change. For a nuclear power, that is only going to come from inside.

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daniel_22sss t1_iy0ct24 wrote

Well, 3 of these counteis are already absolute shitholes, that can't project power anywhere and Iran is having big problems right now.

Maybe Russia won't collapse, but it will become a powerless state with non-existent economy, that doesn't decide anything outside its borders.

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Snooooked t1_ixzjplm wrote

When was North Korea "normal" in first place, to collapse

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EnteringSectorReddit t1_iy0x0ke wrote

Putin say goodbye on New Year's Eve, install replacement, and be happy about its life.

West will gladly reset relations with Russia on next day.

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Turd_Gurgle t1_iy1wdbd wrote

I feel like "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" applies here

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ctmsansei t1_iy26jzn wrote

north korea's ass is being saved by the international community though? food, medicines, vaccines, etc. cuba too i believe? venezuela has a lot of food sortage problems. also, they arent in the middle of a war like russia. those countries, if they were in a similar war right now...

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shlam16 t1_ixxojg3 wrote

Relations with Germany post-WW2 and Russia post Cold War resumed very quickly (at least compared to "a few generations"). Will be no different here when Russia inevitably collapses and grovels.

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thekarmabum t1_ixxwbou wrote

Both events were caused by significant regime changes. I don't see Germany going through that anytime soon, Russia is a maybe, depends on who goes up the food chain after Putin. Those were two wars that had fairly clear endings, even though the cold war was never officially a war.

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butterhoscotch t1_ixy9lkz wrote

The problem with regime change in any country, including the us is its NEVER one guy. Sure putins a problem, but hes supported by a corrupt regime and some people are definitely profiting or being kept powerful by the corruption.

Same as the us, we have wildly corrupt politicians supported by a broken government. It would take a fully revolution to uproot the deeply entrenched wealthy corrupt and republicans.

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0x6F1 t1_ixy4hvq wrote

I don’t think Russia likes grovelling. They have a weird and undeserved superiority complex and a huge propensity for lying but I don’t see much grovelling or apologising.

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TROPtastic t1_ixy7zlf wrote

Germany had many of its Nazi leaders tried and executed for war crimes, and the rest fled the country to various safe havens in LATAM. Germany as a society also took full blame for their actions, which I don't see Russians doing without a German-style loss and occupation.

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daniel_22sss t1_iy0d9er wrote

Germany had to completely change and all of the nazi leaders were killed. And even at the height of Cold War, USSR relationships with the West were still better than now. Now russians are being seen as new nazis, and there is little hope, that their genocidal imperialistic mentality will change anytime soon.

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LystAP t1_ixy70te wrote

>That ship has sailed for at least the next few generations.

The ship has not only sailed, it's been hit by mysterious explosions and sunk in a light storm.

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butterhoscotch t1_ixy9d4o wrote

Money. Resuming the status quo is the quickest path to resuming trade

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