Submitted by Skroogeldouche t3_z8xfrc in worldnews
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bob_fakename t1_iydusvs wrote
The fact that air defense zones are pretty meaningless aside, doesn't Russia have enough on their plate without reaching for more?
LilSpermCould t1_iydzacf wrote
Context matters though. You defend your territorial integrity or you lose that space as a means of protection during the event you actually are attacked.
Korea would be in violation of international laws should they shoot down one of these planes. They can engage them and escort them out.
These days it does seem considerably more risky to fly through Russia and China's air defense zones. The Chinese are furious with America's navy for basically doing the same thing but in the ocean.
pierogieking412 t1_iydzkzh wrote
That's exactly what it says in the article. There's even a little bit more info in there.
Not exactly click bait when presenting facts.
verstohlen t1_iye0gqs wrote
Scrambled jets go good with sausage and toast.
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seedless0 t1_iye41jf wrote
They are not meaningless. It's designed to allow reaction time if someone actually tries something funny.
Sufficient-Gift2117 t1_iye4fuu wrote
As does Belarus with Poland. At one point Poland was scrambling nearly every hour lmao
whhe11 t1_iye5ifg wrote
Yeah, but in all fairness Taiwan air defense identification zone extends over a fair chunk of the Chinese mainland. It's different when the Chinese are live fire drilling with missiles landing right outside of Taiwans territorial waters tho.
globular_fluster t1_iye5kq0 wrote
How is it click bait? It is a factual statement.
If someone doesn't know (gee what a loser) what an air defense zone is, that's their problem-- not Reuters'.
EauDeUpdog t1_iye96is wrote
Be like Turkey and just shoot it down. Russia at least stops avoiding airspace this way.
Professional-Web8436 t1_iyea16t wrote
Taiwan's air defense zone is over mainland China.
Me flying a drone in China is violating Taiwan's Air defence zone.
They are comparatively meaningless.
Metak007 t1_iyebcgi wrote
And marmalade! Don’t forget the marmalade!
Metak007 t1_iyebgvy wrote
Where exactly is the Danger Zone?
Twenty_five t1_iyedgzq wrote
You gotta take the highway to get there l
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phormix t1_iyeeft6 wrote
I'd imagine there might be overlaps between countries like Canada/USA/Mexico etc. So if group of bombers/fighters is seen on the Canadian side but clearly on a heading towards the US unannounced... it might still be a concern. That is especially if there was a less trusting relationship between the two countries and Canadian bombers weren't otherwise known as geese...
YeetedApple t1_iyefdkw wrote
While true that it does extend over parts of china, that is never the part that is flown over. Most flights are coming from over water in northeast and southeast towards the island and are clearly aggressive, not just flying over their mainland.
YeetedApple t1_iyefh7d wrote
While true that it does extend over parts of china, that is never the part that is flown over. Most flights are coming from over water in northeast and southeast towards the island and are clearly aggressive, not just flying over their mainland.
AnotherSteveFromNZ t1_iyegaa4 wrote
This is the only answer. How many Russian planes continued to violate Turkish airspace after that incident.
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feeltheslipstream t1_iyeleaj wrote
Adz is self declared and has no legal bearing.
Ita International airspace. You can't complain about planes flying in international airspace as aggressive while at the same time saying ships have right of passage through the heavily contested South China Sea.
pierogieking412 t1_iyelrnv wrote
South Korea did, so they scrambled jets, which is what is reported here.
YeetedApple t1_iyep03k wrote
Are you saying china flying military aircraft directly towards a nation they regularly threaten to invade, with the intent to force a response, is not aggressive? Sure the US is acting in its own self interest, but acting like they are equivalent here is ridiculous. I absolutely can complain about a country threatening an invasion while at the same time saying those threats should be contested.
imvii t1_iyepjv3 wrote
Instructions unclear: Took dirt road to the slightly risky but usually safe zone.
mattmillze t1_iyept98 wrote
Call Kenny Loggins and ask him
BTWImChloe t1_iyeqb04 wrote
Repost of a repost. Nobody cares about ADIZ incursions
[deleted] t1_iyer8x1 wrote
ADIZ incursions are incredibly routine
Waramp t1_iyera72 wrote
I don’t think they needed the reminder.
schwifty86 t1_iyet56m wrote
Hahaha classic
BadSkeelz t1_iyeu13n wrote
China is South Korea's biggest trading partner. It's very easy to follow the money and forget just who you're dealing with until it's too late.
DistortedShadow t1_iyeuv7z wrote
A Hind-D? Whats a Russian gunship doing there?
yaba3800 t1_iyev20b wrote
They didn't enter SK airspace
kishiki18_91 t1_iyev28x wrote
South koreans are pretty laid back in terms of war, Seoul people are naive when it comes to war they didn't think N.korea will attack them anytime. Their bomb shelters are just normal infrastructure they have an app for it.
carthous t1_iyex8ws wrote
dlev_ t1_iyexwbp wrote
Well, according to Putin all is going as planned so…
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feeltheslipstream t1_iyeyv71 wrote
I'm saying that if you classify flights in international airspace as aggressive, don't scoff when others say sailing through international waters are aggressive.
Pick a standard and stick to it.
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_furd_terguson t1_iyf04pn wrote
There’s also some sidewalk driving.
No_Adhesiveness6835 t1_iyf0um7 wrote
Ww3 en route. What sad times.
Shurqeh t1_iyf0x04 wrote
Gotta get that free karma
count023 t1_iyf107k wrote
Russia is flight testing S16s and Sopworth Triplanes to use in the next wave of mobilization in Ukraine.
carthous t1_iyf1aqq wrote
Are you sure?
p0ultrygeist1 t1_iyf1exx wrote
Don’t be cryptic
lukin187250 t1_iyf1f97 wrote
You're that ninja!
Tripanes t1_iyf1zjs wrote
All these people in Reddit trying to discredit the significance of something like this are almost certainly not genuine.
carthous t1_iyf220f wrote
You don't be cryptic
p0ultrygeist1 t1_iyf240a wrote
Either prove me wrong or screw off
AnyProgressIsGood t1_iyf38ld wrote
might as well shoot down the russian ones. what are they gonna do? invade ? lol
DGlen t1_iyf3unc wrote
You would think they wouldn't be trying to swing that angry inch around at the moment. Putin just whipped it out and we all saw it was half the size they were bragging about.
Stilgar314 t1_iyf5f1t wrote
I know this times invite to freak out, by this things happens constantly and every nation with an decent army do it. A country sends a random military thing in route to a neighbour, which sends something to intercept heading, the response time gets timed and the military thing backs home.
websagacity t1_iyf5lmz wrote
The Muromets will be soon to follow.
SuperSpread t1_iyf610p wrote
Driving a car at a crowd but stopping before you hit them isn’t meaningless. That’s what they are doing, it’s stupid but no law against it.
Fantastic_Depth t1_iyf7o06 wrote
I was stationed in turkey back in the 80's on a us military post. pretty much weekly we would have Russians fly over us followed by Turkish planes chasing them.
YeetedApple t1_iyf8nvs wrote
"flights in international airspace" was never the standard, and is a terrible attempt to remove all context from the situation. If you want to say sailing through international waters is aggressive, is every ship everywhere aggressive then? If not, how do you decide which ships are aggressive or not?
Butters_999 t1_iyf9cb2 wrote
What's with these guys? It's just like one of my Japanese animes!
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Doggydog123579 t1_iyfavvd wrote
Scramble jets, sausage, toast, and marmalade? Ewwwww
carthous t1_iyfc0bz wrote
You prove it or you screw off
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p0ultrygeist1 t1_iyfcaqf wrote
Fucking redditors. I forget the average age of redditors is 15
Golmar_gaming227 t1_iyfcc9t wrote
South Koreans never even considered war a massive threat since North Korea always tries to intimidate the South, but they never do anything that would start an all-out conflict (and probably never will) and also people got used to threats of war thats why South Koreans behave quite alarmingly on outsiders pov.
butterhoscotch t1_iyfdyux wrote
frustrating isnt it
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