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lolomfgkthxbai t1_iy31nzk wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in China COVID cases hit fresh record high after weekend of protests by TequillaShotz

Nothing will prevent the spread. They need vaccinations to keep hospitalizations down.

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MikeJeffriesPA t1_iy3b37h wrote

And vaccinations do reduce spread.

Vaccination make you less likely to be symptomatic, and reduces the time that you're contagious (if you get to that point).

They don't prevent infection, but no vaccine in history has prevented infection. Vaccines teach your body how to defeat the virus, they don't prevent the virus from entering your body entirely.

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[deleted] t1_iy38xwv wrote

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MikeJeffriesPA t1_iy3aeab wrote

Most people who die in car accidents were wearing their seatbelt, too.

If 80% of Americans are vaccinated, and 58% of deaths are those who are vaccinated...doesn't that mean the vaccines are at least doing something?

Especially considering older adults are most likely to be vaccinated and also the highest-risk group for COVID?

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stablegeniusss t1_iy3ay4h wrote

Around 80% of Americans have received some form of vaccination. It’s not that surprising that they make up 56% of covid deaths for a single month when you’re looking at that large a subset of the population. Another way to look at that is that 20% of the US population is unvaxed and made up 44% of US related covid deaths for august

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No-Blackberry4518 t1_iy3bdhb wrote

But The first year the vaccine came out, the majority of Americans were not vaccinated obviously . But yet the media missused that statistic, and said that it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated. So we should use that statistic now the same way they used then correct?

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stablegeniusss t1_iy3ebkq wrote

They were likely saying that because the unvaccinated were dying at a substantially higher rate than people who were vaccinated and boosted.

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drconn t1_iy4cs9n wrote

Transparency and the truth is always the way to go.

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OppositeOfOxymoron t1_iy4bbzs wrote

Congratulations. You're using the base rate fallacy.

The unvaccinated are dying at 10+x the rate of vaccinated people in most western countries.

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No-Blackberry4518 t1_iy4c9p6 wrote

Yes. The same fallacy used by the media the first year the vaccine came out when the majority of Americans were not vaccinated obviously . But yet the media missused that statistic, and said that it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated. So we should use that statistic now the same way they used it then.

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