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Larry-Zoolander t1_ixo3knq wrote

Graham Hancock rubbing his hands together right now ready to pounce.

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autotldr t1_ixo64bl wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 75%. (I'm a bot)


> An ancient cave complex thought to date from Kievan Rus' has been discovered in central Kyiv at Voznesensky Uzvoz.

> Dmytro Perov, a conservationist at Kyiv's Center for Urban Development, told Radio Kultura that the caves were discovered next to a demolished house that Kyiv housing authorities had deemed unsafe for habitation.

> Perov wrote on Facebook that the team scoured around 40 meters of caves, including the lower cave complex, which he claims is twice as long as the upper passage and has a series of "Radial branches." The most significant discovery, according to Petrov, was "a set of Kyivan Rus hieroglyphs and Varangian symbols from the Early Rus period," when the region was under the control of Varangian rulers.


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jyper t1_ixow1o7 wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_people

> The Rus' people (Old East Slavic: Рѹсь; Modern Belarusian, Russian, Rusyn, and Ukrainian: Русь, romanised: Rus'; Old Norse: Garðar; Greek: Ῥῶς, romanised: Rhos) were an ethnic group in early medieval eastern Europe. The scholarly consensus holds that they were originally Norse people, mainly originating from present-day Sweden, settling and ruling along the river-routes between the Baltic and the Black Seas from around the 8th to 11th centuries AD. They formed a state known in modern historiography as Kievan Rus', which was initially a multiethnic society where the ruling Norsemen merged and assimilated with East Slavic, Baltic and Finnic tribes, ending up with Old East Slavic as their common language. The elite of Kievan Rus' was still familiar with Old Norse until their assimilation by the second half of the 11th century,[1] and in rural areas vestiges of Norse culture persisted as late as the 14th and early 15th centuries.[1]

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HalfLeper t1_ixoxk87 wrote

What exactly are “Kyivan hieroglyphs”?

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ArMcK t1_ixp09dz wrote

See autotldr's top comment for a summary. Basically, the hieroglyphics used by a culture called the Kievan Rus (Kievan meaning centered around Kiev Kyiv, and Rus being sort of the larger culture's name--one believed to be descended from the Norse and which eventually became today's ethnic Russians).

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EmotionalSuportPenis t1_ixp6e4f wrote

Because much like every other cult, Hancock fans are effectively impossible to convince that he's a total fraud. So every time anyone (rightly) criticizes him, they get downvoted and usually accused of being part of the secret cabal of archaeologists that are suppressing information for whatever reason.

They'll go the way of flat earthers and moon landing deniers eventually, but Rogan has been boosting the hell out of him.

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Grut0l t1_ixprjdx wrote

This shouldn't be on the news, now Russia will destroy them...

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Magicspook t1_ixpvp09 wrote

I think I saw this movie once. Now Zelenskyy will go into the cave, make a deal with the ancient demon trapped within, and emerge as a horrific (though strangely sexy) monster that will save Ukraine from Russia, albeit angsting about his nature all the way.

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lostindanet t1_ixpxbuu wrote

Old slavonic language "...The first stage was when the Slavs were still pagans, so use dashes and serifs...The second stage was after the adoption of Christianity, when they began to write Roman and Greek inscriptions."

ill leave the link to Ukraine University explanation https://kpi.ua/en/12-05-24

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WalrusObjective9686 t1_ixq13vu wrote

Please speak with facts not just some idle talk and hateful speech for other people's work. At least they are not harming anyone, neither they are spreading personal frustrations.

I feel so sorry for even entering this discussion and being part of this hateful dialogue.

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hexiron t1_ixq7nnl wrote

They're saying it about people who have been given ample empirical evidence their hypothesis are incorrect as well as ample opportunities to accept that reality.

Instead they choose not to, double down on ignorance, and spread fraudulent information for profit.

That's why they are horrible people.

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onFilm t1_ixqlk7j wrote

Hell yeah brother, been inspiring new generations still. It's been like 6-8 years since I was really into him, but I'm glad I got to experience his writings.

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karma_aversion t1_ixr023g wrote

Anything that proves Ukraine has had a history separate from Moscow is a threat to the Russian propaganda machine that is trying to make Russians think Ukraine never really existed on its own. So they will probably try and destroy these caves at some point to not have this as a reminder of Ukraines past.

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Grut0l t1_ixr990j wrote

Are we living in a different world? Russia is is targeting everything in Ukraine, including theaters and hospitals, and you believe they won't target an archaeological site? Russians want to do a lot of damage to Ukrainian civilians, as we've seen in the past few months.

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VocalCord t1_ixrfe7g wrote

They prey on ignorance for profit.

They create fictitious narratives to promote their brands.

They try to draw parallels between fairytales and mountains of carefully accumulated scientific research, and then have the audacity to call it "free thinking".

Not only are they garbage humans, they are criminally dangerous and should be called out at every opportunity

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