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16bitnoob t1_iy82352 wrote

Reply to comment by bertiebasit in 'OneLove' anti-hate armbands sell out after FIFA World Cup ban by King-of-New-York

6500 migrant workers died building that stadium iirc

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FardoBaggins t1_iy844ni wrote

That number is disputed but migrant construction workers and manual laborers get treated like slaves nonetheless.

Reform is on the way tho, since they had a system that took away passports removed. But that’s after the fact.

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DirtyThi3f t1_iy8doqg wrote

So Qatar says it’s 400-500. Presuming they are being honest, is that ok then? What’s the acceptable death rate of workers for building stadiums for a game?

https://www.cp24.com/world/qatar-says-worker-deaths-for-world-cup-between-400-and-500-1.6172804

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FardoBaggins t1_iyaomvp wrote

>ok then?

I never said or implied it was ok. but read into it however you like.

It’s for all migrant workers including non construction based work. So thats why the 6500 number is disputed.

They’re removing the so called kafala system bec of the optic the WC brought.

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bertiebasit t1_iy84u6b wrote

Nonsense, that’s a straight up lie.

Edit: some fucking desperate people quite happy to spread disinformation. Pathetic.

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joseph_joestar___ t1_iyah0ya wrote

Your real quick to saying it’s false information, yet I don’t see you disproving it’s either…show your “proof” then…

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bertiebasit t1_iyaj47z wrote

BBC

The 6500 is a misleading number for the Guardian. That is all migrant workers in that period, not just World Cup related.

I’ll let the virtue signallers continue.

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joseph_joestar___ t1_iyal0ld wrote

  1. Doesn’t make it better, the number should technically be irrelevant. even if it are just a few hundred it’s still terrible and should be avoided at all costs. Any project for that matter should avoid deaths, not just the World Cup. So saying “it’s from past projects” is not an excuse either.

  2. Qatar obviously is gonna downplay the number, it’s not like they gonna admit to being responsible for 6500 deaths. They obviously will say the numbers from the guardian are false/different.

  3. If they died from old age it would basically mean they would’ve hired elderly, wich would be inhumane too. natural causes would be possible but not to that extend.

  4. The word of embassies is way stronger than the word of Qatar on this one. Just because Qatar says it’s wrong doesn’t mean it actually is. as I said they will obviously downplay it. The whole event is one big attempt to whitewash themselves, so why not lie to make yourself look better. and ofcource the BBC is gonna write a article because that’s what they do, doesn’t bring more credibility for that matter.

Seral things are wrong with what Qatar is saying. Whatever the number is, workforces in Qatar are treated terrible and Qatar is and remains a corrupt county where woman, and LGBTQ are oppressed.

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bertiebasit t1_iyamgrn wrote

I’ve been to Qatar, it’s a great place and I would happily go again.

The World Cup has been great too, been following it on the TV. Absolutely no evidence of any boycotts.

No country is perfect, especially our white western ones who went round the world robbing, raping, murdering and enslaving on an unimaginable industrial scale.

According to Pew research, women are happier in the Middle East than they are in the west.

They don’t care about LGBT issues, it’s contrary to their religion and value system. They are not about to throw their religion under the bus to placate some virtue signalling westerners hell bent on cultural colonialism.

It’s incredibly insulting to other countries around the world that we insist our values matter more than theirs. It’s arrogance based purely on our white privilege.

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mmmsausages t1_iyaonoy wrote

That's literally straight from Qatars mouth if you read it. And I don't believe a word they say. They tried to say the 37 that died, died from accidents, natural causes or old age. Which is a straight up lie.

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