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AnimatorJay t1_iybnsvi wrote

Reply to comment by Winnmark in For The First Time, Less Than Half Of UK's Population Is Christian: Report by khushraho

Ethnic cleansings and genocide, child abuse, human trafficking/ sex slavery, actual slavery, preying on addicts, attacks on LGBTQ, pushing their social stigmas on everyone else, etc., etc.,

Religion is a cudgel for the wealthy and powerful to hold dominance of the populace, binding the lower class to rules that the top does no need to follow because they have no actual force to hold them accountable.

Religion is a ponzi scheme. It always has been.

There are small/ local religious centers that do use their platform to help people, and they tend to operate by practicing what they preach. They are community-oriented, not interested in painting an "other."

Then there are others that are vicious and suspend their followers in a state of fear or rage until one of them goes out and bombs a Planned Parenthood or mosque.

Faith is not a problem. Believe in the giant fairy man if you want. But religion seeks dominance and to impose itself on as many as possible.

Which is why the US derives laws from universally pro-community tennets found across many societies throughout history and not from the strict religious interpretations from a single book.

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Winnmark t1_iybo6a5 wrote

You're saying that people have used religion to do some terrible things, yeah that's not new buddy.

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ThymeParadox t1_iybz7dh wrote

I mean, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and slavery are in the bible, so, I don't think it's just people misrepresenting an otherwise 'good' religion.

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3dio t1_iyc1ecw wrote

That just means they were present before the Bible. The Bible didn't invent those. Human condition remains the issue religions aimed at. Sure. It was used as an instrument of control but we humans have a tendancy to blame a 3rd party or system or environment (in hindsight usually). See what religion made us do! No my friend. There are human beings driving this thing. With human beings at every junction making horrible and irrational decisions.

We've proven time and again that we don't require religion in order to dominate brutalize torture kill and rape the "other". We humans like to justify crimes. Religion is an inevitable invention. Considering we know virtually nothing about our universe and environment

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ThymeParadox t1_iyc2kcl wrote

Well, yes, obviously it's just humans making choices, because the bible is a work of man.

But contextually, we're talking about whether or not Christianity is a good source of morality. People that believe it is tend to do so because they believe it to be a divine work. But those people need to reckon with the heinous acts commanded by their god.

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3dio t1_iyc3h5t wrote

Religion is great when applied to self. It is absolutely horrible when attempting to impose itself on others. People are prone to madness. Religion or no.

Blatant and directed misinterpretation allows religion to be used as a weapon and means of control by clever conman. Yet every system of hierarchy we create is bound to be corrupted just look at the state of nations. With rule of law. Fighting internally and with other nations. Our modern political systems can also be hijacked by madmen

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AnimatorJay t1_iyct9k3 wrote

You said prove it, then answered your own statement here: people use religion to do terrible things.

It isn't uniquely a religious problem, but it is a great scapegoat, especially when you think your god will favor you for them, or don't actually believe in it but use it anyway for justification.

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