Winnmark t1_iybo6a5 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 4:52 AM

Reply to comment by AnimatorJay in For The First Time, Less Than Half Of UK's Population Is Christian: Report by khushraho

You're saying that people have used religion to do some terrible things, yeah that's not new buddy.

ThymeParadox t1_iybz7dh wrote on November 30, 2022 at 6:52 AM

I mean, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and slavery are in the bible, so, I don't think it's just people misrepresenting an otherwise 'good' religion.

3dio t1_iyc1ecw wrote on November 30, 2022 at 7:21 AM

That just means they were present before the Bible. The Bible didn't invent those. Human condition remains the issue religions aimed at. Sure. It was used as an instrument of control but we humans have a tendancy to blame a 3rd party or system or environment (in hindsight usually). See what religion made us do! No my friend. There are human beings driving this thing. With human beings at every junction making horrible and irrational decisions.

We've proven time and again that we don't require religion in order to dominate brutalize torture kill and rape the "other". We humans like to justify crimes. Religion is an inevitable invention. Considering we know virtually nothing about our universe and environment

ThymeParadox t1_iyc2kcl wrote on November 30, 2022 at 7:36 AM

Well, yes, obviously it's just humans making choices, because the bible is a work of man.

But contextually, we're talking about whether or not Christianity is a good source of morality. People that believe it is tend to do so because they believe it to be a divine work. But those people need to reckon with the heinous acts commanded by their god.

3dio t1_iyc3h5t wrote on November 30, 2022 at 7:49 AM

Religion is great when applied to self. It is absolutely horrible when attempting to impose itself on others. People are prone to madness. Religion or no.

Blatant and directed misinterpretation allows religion to be used as a weapon and means of control by clever conman. Yet every system of hierarchy we create is bound to be corrupted just look at the state of nations. With rule of law. Fighting internally and with other nations. Our modern political systems can also be hijacked by madmen

AnimatorJay t1_iyct9k3 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 1:20 PM

You said prove it, then answered your own statement here: people use religion to do terrible things.

It isn't uniquely a religious problem, but it is a great scapegoat, especially when you think your god will favor you for them, or don't actually believe in it but use it anyway for justification.