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Nekommando t1_ixgpsx0 wrote

How the hell is this country a part of NATO

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Cobbertson t1_ixgq453 wrote

Because kicking any country out of NATO goes against the spirit of collective defense. Why defend anyone when it's politically inconvenient if you could just kick them out?

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Loltty t1_ixh1skt wrote

You can’t achieve collective defense if one link is ally with the enemy. Then it is a security issue for the rest of the defensive alliance, and should be removed.

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Nekommando t1_ixgq70w wrote

I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

Kicking them out would be a very slow process if not outright impossible

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gravballe t1_ixgv0jh wrote

It's even worse they got into EU..

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DeeHawk t1_ixgz2zm wrote

In 2004, 6 years before before Orban. Orban is the re-elected autocrat who is hellbent on stripping the country of any and all democratic values. (But still have "elections")

Not saying they were peachy before, but then again, who is.

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backflips_everyday t1_ixgxxcj wrote

Orban won’t live forever, but I can’t stand to see these fascist fucks. Orban wasn’t in power when they were added to either the EU or NATO.

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GreatWolf_NC t1_ixgzesp wrote

Yeah back then the country wasn't that bad, but again, even his supporters don't agree with him. He is literally a dictator in the sense that he doesn't do what the people want, he doesn't ask, just dors whatever he wants... I hope we can get him up on a lamppost soon

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bionioncle t1_ixhk27s wrote

> I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

Because country's stance and goal change with time and circumstance?

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Nekommando t1_ixhpj5t wrote

they were pretty pro Russia even back when they joined

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bionioncle t1_ixhxtik wrote

I just checked that Hungary joined NATO in 1999 and EU in 2003. Do you think Russia in 1999 the same as Russia 2014 or even 2008? And do you think that the relationship between Russia and NATO was the same as it is now. Nevertheless, is there any requirement that said "must be Russophobic" (since you use "pro-Russia" I think russophobic is the right word to use here) to join?

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Nekommando t1_ixhzz1a wrote

not necessarily Russophobic, at least not to the likes of Poland/Czech/Lithuania/ etc

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Johannes_P t1_ixs5c0p wrote

> I was wondering how they got IN in the first place

The government was more decent before Orban was elected.

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TrueMrSkeltal t1_ixj3y74 wrote

> goes against the spirit of collective defense

Sort of like everything Hungary has done under Orban?

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bulaybil t1_ixgrhnx wrote

Slovakia is pissed, too.

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apple_kicks OP t1_ixgodjg wrote

> Hungary's nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban has angered his country's eastern neighbours Romania and Ukraine by wearing a football scarf adorned with a map of an expanded Hungary.

>The image represents Greater Hungary - the old Hungarian imperial territory that existed before Austria-Hungary's defeat in World War One.

>Romania voiced "firm disapproval" of Mr Orban's gesture, in a message to the Hungarian ambassador to Bucharest. Ukraine demanded an official apology.

>Ukraine's foreign ministry spokesman Oleg Nikolenko said Kyiv was summoning Hungary's ambassador "who will be informed of the unacceptability of Viktor Orban's act".

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MidianFootbridge69 t1_ixgpshs wrote

He's Trolling his Neighbors, stirring the Pot.

I wonder if at some point NATO could be disbanded and immediately Reformed without these assholes.

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Hygochi t1_ixgst5s wrote

Unfortunately some of those assholes are in extremely beneficial geopolitical locations.

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Mephzice t1_ixh6gqa wrote

The "North atlantic alliance" really should not care about Turkey or the locations/sea around it. We don't need it to defend the rest of NATO.

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pmmichalowski t1_ixhdyoo wrote

Turkey is there to keep black sea fleet in check. Ukraine almost removed this reason :P (along with Turkey, because their closing the straight prevents reinforcements)

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Natural-Coffee9711 t1_ixhb9hv wrote

Yeah. He’s been throwing shit at us for years. We’ve already learned to live with it. No one cares. We know he’s a clown

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TMWWTMH t1_ixgs9of wrote

Fukk Orban.

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mkb152jr t1_ixgrrz9 wrote

Dude's just been playing too much HOI4.

Doesn't realized that it isn't 1936, and you can't save scum.

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Cobbertson t1_ixgq5k2 wrote

He's the Hungry Hungary Hippo

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Labor_Zionist t1_ixh7l2m wrote

WW1 was 100 years ago. Time to let go

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AdmirableYouth4208 t1_ixgx3da wrote

Orban is that garbage that you always wanted to clog of the drain but appears to have cemented along the drain.

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Mardred t1_ixgraku wrote

Can't wait his political gains in hungarian politics from this...

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Alokir t1_ixh5d3p wrote

This. His goal is the stay in power no matter what.

He goes from communist rhetoric to race theory in a matter of days, it always depends on who he wants to win over to his side at the time.

He's not at all far right, he's an opportunist who loves power too much and he's willing to drive the country down a cliff to keep it for a while longer.

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kraenk12 t1_ixgwrb3 wrote

What does he have to do so he can be kicked from EU/NATO?

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HinkaDarkin t1_ixgzyli wrote

bro what??a scarf???This shitstain has a map of Greater Hungary casually hanging at his desk...

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Pusfilledonut t1_ixht2x6 wrote

Viktor is a Diktor and the GOP wants him to be their team mascot.

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rhalf t1_ixhu136 wrote

A more honest title: "Orban wears a scarf. It must be cold. It has the same old graphic and no one cares"

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