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VagueSomething t1_j1l4tur wrote
They already have propaganda videos talking about Europe turning into what 2/3rds of Russia is because of this war. It is sad that people believe it entirely.
Throwawaythispoopy t1_j1lf0vs wrote
lol funny how they use turning into Russia to insinuate that Europe isn’t doing well.
Even they acknowledge Russia is a shit hole
VagueSomething t1_j1lgmns wrote
Our Western decadence is our downfall they claim but our downfall makes us look Russian. It is the logic from the smooth brains who claim they invaded a country that put them closer to NATO because they're scared NATO is getting closer to their border.
MeowMeowHappy t1_j1ne8es wrote
Balance of power politics. Russia lost its sphere of influence over Ukraine when the CIA did a western-back coupe in 2014 (victoria nuland was the mastermind).
USA knew that this could probably cause Russia to invade. And then Russia did invade.
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sambull t1_j1lwm6r wrote
They can't just keep popping UK videos up and call them Europe anymore... UK has made it clear they ain't that
Fapoleon_Boneherpart t1_j1mxhla wrote
You need to learn how geography works
napoleon_wang t1_j1ph1ok wrote
Oh, damnit... What's that word for punching oneself repeatedly in the face?
pokpiko t1_j1lm62n wrote
Russians wish they were half as effective at making others miserable as a tory government is.
DownImpulse t1_j1lmz2y wrote
Russian comrades, listen to me. Europe is on the edge of disaster but here in Russia we are one step ahead of them.
Traevia t1_j1lxkqf wrote
Except the core idea of the article "rising natural gas prices" is changing. The prices are starting to drop.
In fact, they were just historically low in 2015 and 2020 so people are mad about it despite the fact that prices were going back up higher from 2020 to December of 2021 before this war started
https://www.macrotrends.net/2478/natural-gas-prices-historical-chart
Love_God551 t1_j1nhwtj wrote
While ignoring the fact that Russia has been like this for years and will be this or worse for decades to come unless they cut lose their tiny little leader
Absolute bollocks
JOAO-RATAO t1_j1lvul1 wrote
They are...
And by cancelling their contracts but continuing to import russian gas they gave the russians a lot more money.
gevorgter t1_j1l528g wrote
Hm... I do not think it's propaganda if it's a truth. Porpoganda usually has a misleading nature.
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HelperNoHelper t1_j1lnh99 wrote
It has little to do with russia, but russia wants misery to be their fault because it tickles their tiny balls to think they’re making people as miserable as they are. Tories scrapped price caps, tories mismanaged the government for 12 years, tories precipitated brexit and bungled the aftermath.
Doc580 t1_j1khhzy wrote
Honestly, America is feeling the freeze right now. It's brutal in New York.
BigCommieMachine t1_j1l0q7v wrote
I am lucky to live in a basement apartment right now. Normally it sucks, but it is 60°F in here with my heating completely off while being literally 12°F outside. Throw on a sweater or blanket and I am fine. Summers aren’t that bad either. I just throw a fan/air purifier next to my bed and couch…it is fine.
apotidevnull t1_j1la5zk wrote
>normally it sucks
Proceeds to say that it's good now and fine during summers too
... So when does it suck? =P
QueasyHouse t1_j1lcgia wrote
Dark, dank, potential for flooding to solidly ruin everything you own… also probably end up breathing a lot of radon
Moderndayhippy1 t1_j1lgyz7 wrote
Had a basement apartment when I lived in Boston, one day some local plant roots grew into the septic line for the building, every time someone flushed their toilet anywhere in the building it all just came out our toilet.
And that kids is why the basement apartment is significantly cheaper than the others.
BlueCyann t1_j1m3udi wrote
Oh hello friend. Same thing happened to me once. Upstairs ran the washing machine. I walked into my bathroom and had to wonder why soapy gray water was coming up in the bathtub.
Dana07620 t1_j1lqyqw wrote
The temperature properties of basements is one thing that is very good about them. Cool in the summer. Warm in the winter. Earth is a great insulator.
ConnSeannery t1_j1ln4x1 wrote
What the hell does that have to do with Britons struggling with heating costs?
Doc580 t1_j1lskrf wrote
Nothing, it's a non-sequiter. After reading the comments, and finding mostly to be dismissive of the headline, decided to respond.
Anyways, Merry Christmas
GorgeousMoron t1_j1l71br wrote
This is why I love living in LA. Weather-wise, it's basically heaven for over 90% of the year.
Doc580 t1_j1lsmys wrote
How big is skid row now in L.A.?
GorgeousMoron t1_j1m2e7h wrote
About the same: a tiny, tiny fraction of the city. Most of us virtually never even really go downtown. And even downtown has relatively nice parts. But this discussion is pointless: you're just here to shit on LA. Knock yourself out. I'm fine with people like you not knowing or appreciating what's on offer here.
kn0where t1_j1lw0ct wrote
Why do you think houseless people assemble there? The weather is nice.
MultipleScoregasm t1_j1lvkxz wrote
It's quite mild today here in the UK where I am in Norfolk. I had the heating on for 1 hour this morning and that's it. These headlines are stupid.
TheRealJohnRedCorn t1_j1m9874 wrote
It’s been a pretty mild winter where I’m at in Alaska. Only -19°F today whereas -40°F is pretty common to see this time of year.
Doc580 t1_j1maozf wrote
Congrats to your perseverance! Honestly, NYC is cold, but your on a whole different level of cold. I'd be fuckin useless to ya up there.
lupuscapabilis t1_j1o12uw wrote
Yeah NYC didn’t even feel that cold today, compared to yesterday. We escaped most of the brutality.
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[deleted] t1_j1kfil3 wrote
Bollocks.
Edit to add: Double bollocks. We had a week and a bit long spell of unseasonably cold weather before it warmed back up into the teens. As Michael Winner would say: calm down dear.
Sharad17 t1_j1kh2br wrote
Since when are temps around 0 unseasonable .... in winter? Damn it climate change, why you speeding up??
[deleted] t1_j1khual wrote
It’s usually closer to 6-8 at that time in December in the U.K. - the nasty stuff doesn’t usually arrive until January/February (it’s why a white christmas is such a hoped for anomaly)
alvvayson t1_j1lgb14 wrote
May I call triple bollocks?
Gas prices are going down, down, down.
These warm banks and small sacrifices in personal comfort are basically winning the economic war against the poo tin.
Yeah, at 17 C it's chillier in my house than the toasty 20 C I would normally have, but my gas consumption is down 40%.
Who is winning now, poo tin? 🤣🤣🥳
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[deleted] t1_j1lroxc wrote
Yeah it does kinda sound like bollocks, they're in social housing so their main cost of living has been reduced greatly. The guy could be a labourer and earn more than his wife. I'm struggling to see how they're so short on cash unless freelance journalist is code for writing conspiracy theories on Facebook or something.
DemonicFluffyMog t1_j1ln9g4 wrote
With friends like the Tories, who needs enemies?
LoopStricken t1_j1k5eoh wrote
I just wear my duvet, like I have the past ten years or so.
domestication_never t1_j1k6p2v wrote
Heat pumps, solar panels, and enough of your own roof space to install them is going to be very popular.
urriola35 t1_j1kep01 wrote
Yeah because a winter storm is a great source for solar panels.
Drackar39 t1_j1khj9l wrote
See, the fun thing about solar off-set plans is, you generate more energy when you have sunny days, and that off-sets the cost of energy grid use when you're in a storm, at night, etc...
domestication_never t1_j1kicow wrote
Or just run the HP flat out in the day up to 23c and let it cool overnight. Most nights I don't use it, I use an electric blanky
Drackar39 t1_j1kll6x wrote
Yup, banking your energy when you can is also a valid strat.
urriola35 t1_j1kied9 wrote
I haven’t had sunlight for a month lol
Drackar39 t1_j1kljiu wrote
It's a ...year round... Ok no just don't get solar if you're that dumb dude.
fallte1337 t1_j1lexau wrote
And where is that power that you are “setting off” being stored? Your hopes and dreams?
Drackar39 t1_j1lgfij wrote
So, how this generally works is, your net generation is recorded, for the year, and any surplus, for the year, is logged with your power company.
Then, when you use more than you produce, it is off-set by higher production time periods.
Your solar running a bunch of air conditioners in the summer pays your power bill running heat in the winter.
fallte1337 t1_j1p7ed9 wrote
I know how it works but the fact you are generating power in summer when there is not that much demand and plenty of power doesn’t help in winter does it? It helps your bills, sure but if there is not enough power there will be blackouts and your solar is not going to help.
Drackar39 t1_j1r5kv0 wrote
The primary issue isn't lack of sufficient power plants, it's cost of fuel to run those power plants (alongside rank profiteering by literal criminal scumbags, but that's another topic).
Any fuel that isn't used "in the summer" is still available "In the winter".
fantomas_ t1_j1lpie7 wrote
It's called the national grid you absolute sausage.
fallte1337 t1_j1p72hr wrote
So let me get this straight. You are setting off power by sending it to the grid. That power is absolutely minuscule but the government is paying you some money to make you feel better about your bad investment. Then, when you actually need power - at night in winter, when your solar panels are absolutely useless, you are relying on the grid like everyone else. The question, you moron, is - what happens when there is not enough power at peak demand? How are your solar panels helping then? You see, I’ve done the math whether I can make my country house off grid by installing solar panels. The answer is - no. Between the cost of the panels and the batteries required the cost is way more than I will ever save within the life of the panels and the batteries. It’s still cheaper to receive power from the grid - who would have guessed? So the answer to all power problems is not “solar”, idiot. The only reason small scale solar kind of works is because the government is paying you out of everyone else’s pocket to do not very much.
fantomas_ t1_j1pcup4 wrote
This reply is peppered with insults. Much like the pepper in a Cumberland sausage. But you'd know all about that wouldn't you? Ya sausage.
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Bater_cat t1_j1lgqm7 wrote
Proper insulation would be much better solution.
kirky1148 t1_j1kx2ve wrote
I hope so, I do alot of work in building decarbonisation. These options won't generally help things like the hard to treat houses or the serious retrofit costs for alot of stock. Essentially where they need serious insulation and ventilation upgrades to bring up to standard which can cost alot more than the heat pump and dispersion installation costs.
And for hard to treat builds like solid stone etc then higher flow temperatures than most heat pumps deliver so often alternatives are needed or heat pumps not in the cost range that are viable for domestic homes. The solar PV isn't great in Winter when we tend to need the energy more for things like lighting and heating (in some places). Smart, local level energy systems with local generation and storage are really needed to overcome things like grid constraints which are a risk to both heat and ev electrification . Any way happy Christmas !
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[deleted] t1_j1kgb5g wrote
Heat pumps don’t generate enough heat to be suitable for anything but new build properties - they need underfloor heating to allow a low heat level over a larger area to achieve a comfortable temperature - they are not a feasible replacement for gas in existing properties.
domestication_never t1_j1khbh6 wrote
I have one on a 1950 wood house that just survived a winter storm, keeping it toasty 20c inside
[deleted] t1_j1kit7g wrote
Good for you. Most older U.K. houses are one brick thick (zero cavity) houses which are by their nature thermally dense. Thermally dense houses work by having the heating first heat the fabric of the house which then retains the warmth and radiates it back into the living space. It’s exactly the same principle as early man building structures from large rocks and having large fire pits within them - they didn’t choose large stones for shits and giggles. Heat exchangers don’t generate enough heat to heat the fabric of thermally dense buildings, nor are traditionally built U.K. houses readily suitable for additional insulation - you’re taking dry lining with insulated plasterboard to achieve ‘meh’ level benefits
domestication_never t1_j1kl3xk wrote
Plenty of brick houses here have heat pumps. This 1950s house is matchsticks and cardboard. It's got the insulative properties of wet shorts in a stiff winter breeze straight to the testies.
It has "aux heat" a very powerful resitive heater it'll use from time to time. Usually for about 10-20 mins a day. That costs significant money. The rest of the time it cost as much as an aircon to run. Which, coincidentally it also is for summer time.
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Drackar39 t1_j1kho6v wrote
If your structure is completely uninsulated, and it's several degrees bellow freezing, sure, you won't be super warm.
But it's the most energy efficient option, even if it's not the only heat source. It's a viable way to drastically lower energy use from other means.
[deleted] t1_j1kj3if wrote
And that’s current renewables summed up in one post - it’s an extra over = it isn’t enough by itself
Edit to add: it also sums up renewables in the U.K. as a whole. We’ve invested massively in wind power capacity, but the reliability of its output is distinctly meh. Many days it’s tootling along at a few percentage of it’s claimed capacity. But I doubt you, me, or aunty Jan care about that when we want to boil the kettle - we want power and we want it now. The grid recognises that so it keeps gas plants online, however, they’re not permitted to operate efficiently and generating the most efficient amount of power they can for the grid, nope, they’re kept tootling along as back up to the green wind energy ready to pick up the slack when the massive supposed capacity of wind generation invariably comes in at a few percent of claimed capacity. Gas plants operating below capactiy are inefficient and therefor expensive - so it’s uncanny that the cost to consumer of electricity across the board, regardless of where it was derived, is based on the cost of electricity generated by gas….
Drackar39 t1_j1kldu0 wrote
I mean sure, energy efficient devices are designed to work with energy efficient homes.
If you don't want to bother "making your house suck less" just throw a unit aimed at a larger structure at your home.
[deleted] t1_j1kmwh6 wrote
It won’t work - ground source heat pumps are subject to the amount of land available and over an extended time period are subject to a diminishing rate of return. As for air sourced… I used to be a facilities manager for a national retailer and the number of noise complaints we’d receive in respect of AC and refrigeration plant would make your eyes water. What do you think the reaction would be to thousands of air sourced heat pumps being installed in a neighbourhood?
[deleted] t1_j1kdy4o wrote
Heat pumps are trash.
rsta223 t1_j1keh7p wrote
Heat pumps are the best primary heating device for a modern home.
Is there a reason you don't like energy efficiency?
[deleted] t1_j1kke82 wrote
Really depends on your climate. The curve changes drastically. You can barely get parts for heat pumps just a few years old. I live in New England and it’s just not the way to go. Plus good luck finding an A/C tech out here. Most guys just know oil/propane.
rsta223 t1_j1km3l2 wrote
>Really depends on your climate.
Nah, all that determines is whether you need a fallback gas system or not. Even in cold climates, heat pumps can take up a significant chunk of the load on warmer winter days and in the shoulder season.
> The curve changes drastically.
Yes, which is why modern systems can choose whether to run the heat pump or the backup heat based on whichever would be more efficient based on current conditions.
>You can barely get parts for heat pumps just a few years old.
That's not a technological issue. In terms of parts and complexity, heat pumps are literally just air conditioners with a reversing valve, so they're not inherently any more expensive or difficult to fix than an A/C
>I live in New England and it’s just not the way to go. Plus good luck finding an A/C tech out here. Most guys just know oil/propane.
That just means that techs need to keep up with the times.
Similarly, if an area has a bunch of coal plant techs and no wind turbine techs, that's not an argument that the next power plant they build should be coal, it's an argument that they should start to train up some wind turbine techs.
domestication_never t1_j1km6nq wrote
Well those guys gonna go out of business becuase heat pumps are selling like crazy in the PNW.
I replaced a 1970s ThermoPride oil furnace I called "ol' smokey" for its habit of occasionally fucking up and spewing smoke right when you needed it most. Oil cost me 600 a year back then, it'd cost 1500 a year now. The heat pump was 10k and costs about 400 a year in electricty. Plus it's a aircon. Costco deal, with 10pct cash back. Have had zero problems getting it serviced. There is fuck-all to service on it.
The only issue is that it's loud. Not as loud as ol' smokey, but very loud for a 2019 appliance.
tim_dude t1_j1kso47 wrote
Do they also put on warm clothes and drink hot liquids?
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ThirdSunRising t1_j1n568e wrote
Just go hang out in the baked goods section at Tesco
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Brave_Wishbone291 t1_j1mepxe wrote
Sounds like they need new management
cyrusm t1_j1mn0pf wrote
Is this abnormal? We've got quite a few warming centers set up. Mostly for the people who aren't lucky enough to have shelter this time of year, but also for those people who can't heat their homes. My city also sets up fresh water stations and cooling centers on overly hot days.
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MeowMeowHappy t1_j1ndwlk wrote
Welp thats what happens when you go to war with Russia
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killzoomer t1_j1k87of wrote
Lol all of Europe sounds like it's living in Vicrotian Era bro. Honestly I'm glad I live in USA babyyyy 🇺🇸
Bawstahn123 t1_j1kd3yr wrote
>Lol all of Europe sounds like it's living in Vicrotian Era bro. Honestly I'm glad I live in USA babyyyy 🇺🇸
Can you morons not make us Americans look like window-licking morons for just 5 minutes?
nznova t1_j1kzn0x wrote
Demonstrably, no.
NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j1k8z7e wrote
Cringe.
We’re talking about the poorest minority of people here. In America, these people would be homeless, at least here they have homes—heated or not. And it’s not like we’re in Siberia here, UK (and most of Europe) have mild winters.
Blackfist01 t1_j1k9lfv wrote
>And it’s not like we’re in Siberia here, UK (and most of Europe) have mild winters.
And we still can barely cope.😅
NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j1k9y2r wrote
Ikr? It snows for a few days and everyone suddenly drives around like drunk toddlers in go-karts.
Blackfist01 t1_j1kafad wrote
this countries whether readiness, I saw cars rolling there wheels in place before the tires got a grip and could drive safely. What we have cannot adapt to anything.
This is a problem with britains infrastructure, they let everything run into obscensence instead of dealing with the problems immediately, thus floods, poor insulation, all terrain tires not being cheap or common etc.🤦🏾♂️
NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j1kay3d wrote
But hey, at least road infrastructure, insulation, and a poorly funded (but free) healthcare system are pretty much all we have to worry about.
We have it pretty good, all things considered. Especially considering what Ukraine has to contend with this winter.
Blackfist01 t1_j1kb34c wrote
At least they have a competent government. But you're correct, of course.
NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j1kb6wc wrote
I’m with ya man. We need the treasonous Tories out of power.
710AlpacaBowl t1_j1kccwg wrote
We wish our friends across the pond luck in this venture
Doc580 t1_j1kg008 wrote
Our whole country need ice skates right now. Wanna invade Alabama? Now's your chance.
710AlpacaBowl t1_j1kgk76 wrote
Shorts weather in Arkansas if you don't mind 5F. But why invade Alabama? For meat and cotton?
Doc580 t1_j1kgtxd wrote
Figured if we give them Alabama it would drag them down to our level.
710AlpacaBowl t1_j1kh6xf wrote
Damn that's genius, should give em folrida too. Let Florida man work em over
Euclid_Interloper t1_j1kezsz wrote
Mate, you have millions people living in trailers without access to healthcare and the gun crime rates of a failed state. I wouldn’t be so proud.
TibetianMassive t1_j1kekom wrote
Right because nowhere in the United States has been having issues that seems more 1800 than 2000. It's been smooth sailing keeping American lights on, and pretty consistently available. There's no major flaws with the infrastructure .
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VagueSomething t1_j1l51ai wrote
Tories are making us Brits experience being American. We're being eroded to your standards.
StirlingSharpy t1_j1l1smt wrote
It is pretty bad, the Torys keep pulling miracle after miracle. As long as the snobby nosed clueless out of touch deluded deranged tossers keep getting richer then to fuck with everybody else.
Wouldn't shed one tear if all of them got assassinated. I would raise a toast.
MeowMeowHappy t1_j1nfg0n wrote
obey us. you pretentious European vassal states 🇺🇸
but hey seriously lets negotiate an end to this Ukraine War.
OldFartneedYoungtart t1_j1l2l7r wrote
Well at least your honest and not patronizing about how Europeans need to 'tough it out' and 'its not that bad, it'll be over soon'
tim_dude t1_j1kstaj wrote
I can see Russian media picking this up and using for their propaganda of how Europe is suffering without their gas