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CaptainObvious_1 t1_j2dxluh wrote

Reply to comment by IllHospital6475 in Ukrainian air defense will become stronger in new year – Zelensky by Espressodimare

> The only reason why Ukraine is still in the game is the West.

Bullshit. Is NATO support helping tremendously? Yes. Do we know what the situation would be if there wasn’t any support? No, absolutely not. They held their own in the first few days of the war with basically nothing from us. Kyiv wasn’t going to be taken anytime soon.

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IllHospital6475 t1_j2e3y70 wrote

Yes sure... Because it wasn't NATO who gave them all the intel needed to defend themselves. I'm not saying that Ukrainians did nothing to defend themselves because it is obvious that they have paid ultimate price in tens of thousands. However, as sad as it might be it is the science and money that wins wars. Better tech and more of it is what will win this war and hopefully it will end with some people in the prison for life... Preferably in Ukrainian prison.

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CaptainObvious_1 t1_j2e6z23 wrote

But you don’t know that, and you’re speaking entirely out of your ass

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