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Fhujeth t1_j18wlgo wrote
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Thank you. And no, I wouldn't get directly mad at my friend but I would carefully try to explain why a behaviour is leading to him getting bullied and therefore affecting me as well. I wouldn't stop being their friend but I would say stuff like, "girls really don't like it when you info dump about Pokemon on them. Let's go find Pokemon fans we can talk to instead."
Like, I study history for fun, which has lead to me to already some strange feelings about WHY UK/US etc gave us foothold back in Israel. I doubt they cared about us truly wanting to go home. They have ulterior motives, always do. If they cared, the US at least wouldn't have been so Antisemitic just a few years prior to Israel coming to be.
I think Zionist has since had the definition ruined, since it already sounds so militant. I'm also not for a Theocracy, just the safety net that Israel offers to Jews from persecution. Yet while we seek safety there, it feels hypocritical.
Like we know Palestinians did this to themselves too. They're not innocent victims of Israeli government only. They are victims of their grandparents starting the wars to destroy Israel.
But that doesn't excuse Israel from being so alt right that it's doing what it's doing.
I'm glad we are on the same page then. I'm sick of all the misconstrued stuff, but mostly the hate. I e never felt safe to be Jewish, and now it's worse than ever... I'm scared and mad and powerless to do anything about it.
magicaldingus t1_j18yfcm wrote
>Thank you. And no, I wouldn't get directly mad at my friend but I would carefully try to explain why a behaviour is leading to him getting bullied and therefore affecting me as well. I wouldn't stop being their friend but I would say stuff like, "girls really don't like it when you info dump about Pokemon on them. Let's go find Pokemon fans we can talk to instead."
I completely agree, and this is what I'm suggesting.
>Like, I study history for fun, which has lead to me to already some strange feelings about WHY UK/US etc gave us foothold back in Israel. I doubt they cared about us truly wanting to go home. They have ulterior motives, always do. If they cared, the US at least wouldn't have been so Antisemitic just a few years prior to Israel coming to be.
Also completely agree. At the end of the day, Israel was born of pragmatism. Countries with different interests can share similar goals and this is an example. I also think that antisemetism is part and parcel of why they supported Israel in the early years.
>I think Zionist has since had the definition ruined, since it already sounds so militant. I'm also not for a Theocracy, just the safety net that Israel offers to Jews from persecution. Yet while we seek safety there, it feels hypocritical.
The definition has never changed. Like I said, you can thank anti-semites for poisoning the well here and muddying the connotations. The aims of their redefinition of the word is to make you feel bad for believing in the self-determination of your people. These are people who's lives would be much more convenient if you didn't exist, and would love for you to just assimilate in to American culture, or die because you live in Israel.
>Like we know Palestinians did this to themselves too. They're not innocent victims of Israeli government only. They are victims of their grandparents starting the wars to destroy Israel.
Agree.
>But that doesn't excuse Israel from being so alt right that it's doing what it's doing.
Also agree.
>I'm glad we are on the same page then. I'm sick of all the misconstrued stuff, but mostly the hate. I e never felt safe to be Jewish, and now it's worse than ever... I'm scared and mad and powerless to do anything about it.
I encourage you to stick out your chest and be Jewish, despite all the hate you feel. After all - being Jewish is not supposed to be easy, it's always been an active choice. As someone who studies history, I'm sure you can appreciate this.
Fhujeth t1_j1907q0 wrote
Thank you for hearing me out and I'll keep these things in mind.
I didn't choose to be Jewish but to antisemites that doesn't matter.
magicaldingus t1_j1939f5 wrote
You choose to be Jewish every time you call yourself Jewish
Fhujeth t1_j193qah wrote
Historically it didn't tend to work that way. I'm ethnically Jewish, and even if I touted Nazi rhetoric, I'd just be a crypto Jew...
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