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khaberni t1_j20tudv wrote

I think the King of Jordan is an ideal example of a secular Muslim leader, that i hope other mena countries can follow.

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Dagonet_the_Motley t1_j20zlbb wrote

How about not an autocrat?

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khaberni t1_j218cg5 wrote

Totally an autocrat, don’t deny that. But certain parts of the Middle East is not ripe enough for full blown democracy (in the western sense). 50 years of bad educational system needs to be reversed first.

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varlimontos t1_j22t7kv wrote

You know, i look at the west right now and im not sure that we are as ripe for democracy as we thought

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IngloBlasto t1_j2392st wrote

Regardless subtract 50 years of secular sense and rationality from west, you'll get middle east.

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Delphys91 t1_j215nhr wrote

Or you know, they could grow up and adopt real democracies without autocrat leaders

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khaberni t1_j219dgg wrote

This isn’t about growing up. The region is not just ripe enough for democracy. The education system for the past 50+ years has been all about memorization, not critical thinking. Certainly not critical thinking in politics. And definitely no criticism thinking of religion. The curriculums also over emphasize certain parts of history and completely erases others. Once these things get overhauled, and true political parties form, then we can talk about democracy.

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medfreak t1_j218qm5 wrote

The middle east is so polarized, that democracies only are bringing out extremism. That's what Israel has Netenyahu for 20+ years. Muslim countries would be electing the same level of extremism, like the Iranian Ayatollahs. Don't think it would solve one thing.

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