locwul t1_j22p9p0 wrote on December 29, 2022 at 5:25 AM

Reply to comment by Persianx6 in Jordan king warns of 'red lines' in Jerusalem as Netanyahu returns to office by Pilast

I'm sure it was because Jordan tried to ethnically cleanse them and it's Jordan fault /s

Persianx6 t1_j22shh0 wrote on December 29, 2022 at 5:57 AM

Ethnically cleanse?

Umm Jordan is a state run by Arab people. There's no ethnic difference between a Palestinian and a Jordanian outside some regional cultural things. There's lots of Palestinian people living normal lives in Jordan.

Being a "Palestinian" at all is a reference to a political term, the refugees of the 1948 war were referred to as "Arabs."

Also, your history is wrong -- Arafat attempted assassination before Black September occurred. Black September happened because Arafat tried to kill the king of Jordan twice, and the end result was a civil war that then led Arafat's fighters to travel across borders, eventually sparking war in Syria and in Lebanon.

Interesting history but if you think it's an ethnic cleanse, akin to genocide, or whatever Israel is doing now, it's not. Not at all.

AggregatedAggrevate t1_j22wqmc wrote on December 29, 2022 at 6:45 AM

This. The only difference is the Heshamites typically ruled in Iraq and the Hejaz and have nothing to do with this particular geographic region of the Middle East.

Persianx6 t1_j22xd7g wrote on December 29, 2022 at 6:52 AM

The nation of Jordan exists with a king because the British wanted a king there, so long as the King would grant BP some oil rights.

I'm not sure there's really a plethora of people who are pro-monarchy, but apparently it works fine enough day to day that the people don't revolt and the US/Brits don't attempt to put a democracy there.

It's like, very literal. The Hashemites cut a deal with the British as Britain sacked the former Ottoman Empire, leading to that state being a near colony.

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Moonshine206 t1_j231hun wrote on December 29, 2022 at 7:44 AM

No, jordan was and still is a miserable police state. They were planning to drive out the PLO sooner or later, and since when do LGBT folks care for ruthless monarchs?