KailReed t1_j24wo2e wrote
Reply to comment by dumb_idiot_dipshit in G7 tell Taliban to reverse ‘reckless and dangerous’ ban on female aid workers by misana123
What exactly is everyone supposed to do about Afghanistan? I've seen people say we should help, I've seen people say we should just leave them alone entirely, and both times people have said we can't do that.
ZetZet t1_j252lym wrote
Reminds me of the Andy's wiping problem. At some point you have to give up.
mrlolloran t1_j253peu wrote
This is a weird feedback loop that some people fall into. They look at strife abroad and think surely we must help but almost always it ends up badly and then they think we have no business even being there until the next problem that tugs at their heartstrings arises.
It’s a bit of a straw man but I’ve seen it play out enough to disregard that. People can say I’m full of shit but here’s what comes next/has been happening. We decide we are going to do something but with no military intervention. We give food but local warlords seize it and only dole out generous portions to themselves and their most loyal supporters and if there’s any left everyone else can fight over it. Warlords keep doing business as usual because we’re feeding them and regular people, the ones we’re desperately trying to help, starve. Which brings us back to either cutting off all aid or military intervention, which we’ve already tried and failed, to ensure the people are getting the food and other supplies.
Frankly I think you’ve got the right idea of skipping over the next part. There’s nothing we can do so why enable the warlords. I’m open to an alternative I’ve just never heard a one personally.
Edit: some words
CriskCross t1_j2529ds wrote
Could have just not left, leaving 40 million people to lose human rights was a bad thing actually. Or we could have actually built the Afghan army to operate independent of us instead of being 100% dependent on us.
Like, no matter how you look at it this is our fault.
this_toe_shall_pass t1_j2541ms wrote
Did you witness the last 20 years? What should've been done differently ?
CriskCross t1_j255zur wrote
Well, aside from the fact this was always going to be a generational conflict if we wanted to actually change the country, a good start would have been building an Afghan military that wasn't entirely reliant on us for logistics, intelligence, procurement, maintenance, training, air support, CasEvac, you know. Literally every support function.
We cut the cord practically over night, leaving behind a military that was all tooth no tail, and then justified the abandonment as the same moralizing bullshit we use to claim poverty is the fault of the impoverished.
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