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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2a98ng wrote
Love when foreigners care more about the possibility of decreased deforestation than people.
wastelandho t1_j2ab4ls wrote
Kind of assuming you're being sarcastic, but yeah, I have no love for people who are destroying the planet, don't care what nationality you are.
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Me0wTTV t1_j2ajsxb wrote
No one said anything about Brazilian families, you’re just being an asshole. We have no love for Bolsonaro, he WAS actively destroying the planet. Or his supporters.
ThatGuyMiles t1_j2bh47z wrote
Honestly why are these comments always on a low effort alt account. Is this self awareness, why not just post on whatever main account you use instead of quickly creating to changing to a random account. This just seems bizarre to me…
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ARollingTheist t1_j2b5lnu wrote
The fact that you blame "foreigners" says so much about how right-wingers just pretend everything is someone else's fault.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b6c2m wrote
> The fact that you blame "foreigners" says so much about how right-wingers just pretend everything is someone else's fault.
The largest enviromental disasters are caused by foreign companies.
The produce/meat is not for national consumption and is exported.
The border are the most active regions because they know the Brazilian authorities can't act properly.
There are thousands of problems that are 100% national, this ain't one.
Dark_Shade_75 t1_j2b8hon wrote
Who sold the land and trees to those companies?
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LostGuy242 t1_j2dsgy9 wrote
Your idol bolsonaro is human trash a cancer in this world you have internet inform yourself idiot
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Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2ab7i7 wrote
Not really, just what I keep seeing online. Europeans and Canadians talking about how the Amazon should be invaded and Brazilian people don't have any sort of claim on it, blindly support any figures that says something about the amazon because trees.
Meanwhile no one wants to stop norwegian mining companies or make one third of their country an international reservation (pine tree wastelands don't count).
Pretty standard on the internet.
JibberJabber420420 t1_j2adlt2 wrote
I mean the fate of the Amazon has a pretty disproportionate impact on the environment due to the biodiversity and the insane amounts of CO2 it sequesters, so it merits international condemnation when there is problematic illegal (and legal) logging.
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Me0wTTV t1_j2aq5k5 wrote
I mean…it’s not like anyone wants to be doing that? It’s just not an option to replace it all yet? Burning down the rainforest is very…optional? Nuance is key.
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Me0wTTV t1_j2b27cp wrote
I live somewhere where that’s the case, honestly most of the US is either really hot or really cold. EU is a bit different but I don’t live there.
Yea it was. fucking up the rainforest, and honestly a lot of logging and destruction of forested areas could have been prevented had we adopted more sustainable practices earlier - they existed.
I’m just glad it’s one thing ticked off the list of shit humanity is breaking. Let’s go get off shore drillers next, fucking yo the ocean is equally condemnable in my book.
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flamehead2k1 t1_j2b5ki2 wrote
A lot of countries are increasing protected areas.
If you look at the past, you're going to see large portions of the northern hemisphere deforested but no one can change that. We can only try to repair the damage done and protect remaining wilderness.
Brazil is fortunate enough to be able to focus on the latter and it doesn't need to do so at the expense of its development. Sure, agribusiness will take a hit but that industry doesn't benefit the average Brazilian all that much. It keeps food prices low but also has shit wages and working conditions.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b7265 wrote
> A lot of countries are increasing protected areas.
Brazil still ahead of most, even relative to it size, the whole concern trolling other nations do while not doing even 1/10 of what Brazil does it either on bad faith or extreme ignorance.
> Brazil is fortunate enough to be able to focus on the latter and it doesn't need to do so at the expense of its development.
Sadly it does, protecting an area the size of Europe is extremely dangerous, expensive, and consuming. Outlawing developments make sure no one will pay taxes, work conditions will be slave like, and that the money will end up in criminal hands.
Sadly we can't have our cake and eat it too.
> Sure, agribusiness will take a hit but that industry doesn't benefit the average Brazilian all that much. It keeps food prices low but also has shit wages and working conditions.
They are the industry pay most taxes, employ most people, and is the most stable. It will be a big hit and it is far from being "fortunate enough".
Me0wTTV t1_j2b4vbq wrote
I think the key reason is that the Amazon rainforest is famous, and historically one of the most scientifically critical areas of the earth. Many many medicines and rare compounds are found there/derived from plants that can only grow there. Rick’s Logging Co from Oregon cutting down forests for no justifiable reason deserves to take a ton of criticism as well.
I see your point, and I agree with you. It truly needs to stop everywhere, but your forest is the poster child.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2b5cxh wrote
> Many many medicines and rare compounds are found there/derived from plants that can only grow there.
And Brazil can't farm or mine there withouth getting flak from other countries, european companies do it all the time tho.
> but your forest is the poster child.
More like a target, the fame of the Amazon mostly has negative consequences. Best case scenario we get a few mil from UE so they pretend they are helping while causing damages themselves.
JibberJabber420420 t1_j2akuhy wrote
You know the Amazon isn’t just in one country right? Hard to prevent it from being an international issue
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2anvt3 wrote
> You know the Amazon isn’t just in one country right?
Yes, and it happens that the largest chunk of it is in Brazil. No one has any issues about Peru and Ecuador talking about their borders and shared biomes, but UK and Norway can kinda fuck off.
Me0wTTV t1_j2ajyzp wrote
What the hell website are you on? I’m here every day and don’t see this. Quit making up conflicts. No credible human would say anything like that.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2andxy wrote
You can find hundreds of articles about how the amazon forest should "belong to the world" and not Brazil, as a matter of fact you probably don't remember that in 2019 Macron and the EU tried to sanction Brazil because of the amazon forest. Going as far as to threaten to block trade, all because they were displeased. They even discussed what should be done about it in a G7 meeting they didn't invite Brazil to, while calling the forest "our home"
https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1164616868080103425
(Also the picture Macron used is like 30y)
Oh, but the EU offered enough money to buy a couple helicopters to patrol an area the size of western europe, I am sure they all care deeply about it.
Maybe you don't notice those kinds of comments but I am brazilian and it is pretty clear that if it was possible to fence out the Amazon most gringos would do it no matter what the cost.
Me0wTTV t1_j2aqghf wrote
Bro I’m American we just want you all to have all your rights and for you not to burn the forest. You seem to be a Bolso guy.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aukju wrote
> Bro I’m American we just want you all to have all your rights
Not sanctioning us because of wildfire would be a great starts.
> You seem to be a Bolso guy.
Sadly I was forced to vote for him on the second turn (voting in Brazil is mandatory-ish).
Angel_in_Training_2 t1_j2aduya wrote
The effects of deforestation will affect the local populace first, though, there are tons of local activists.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aegml wrote
> The effects of deforestation will affect the local populace first
Do you think people travel half of the continent to do logging and then go back home? It is the local population doing it lmao.
Sad-Meringue-694 t1_j2akm7v wrote
You do know that, in cockney English, ‘Mike Hunt’ means ‘c*unt’ (?) - pretty apt for someone like yourself.
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2ao68r wrote
Congrats, you understand a pun that a 5th grader would get.
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rosiyaidynakher t1_j2cofih wrote
Yeah because bolsonaro cares so much about people, that philanthropical people-loving so and so
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ShamelessBaboon t1_j2ey1q2 wrote
I thought you people didn’t support drug use?
Major_Moah t1_j2a8960 wrote
Goodbye you fascist fuck
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LeoFrei7as t1_j2acywz wrote
Just see his cattle of followers begging for military intervention and disregard for the constitution
Mike-Hunt1969 t1_j2aeuv0 wrote
Calling people dehumanizing terms is pretty fascist of you, isn't that the second step of fascism? Amazing how you managed to do that but not say anything about Bolsonaro.
LeoFrei7as t1_j2afe6n wrote
Maybe remove your blinkers and it’s pretty obvious how fascist he is and how shitty he did his job leaving the minus 178 billions for the next government
Elquinocesati t1_j2chc5u wrote
Hyper-nationist and racist who has worked to undermine indigenous communities, Black Brazilian activism, while promoting white-male identity politics and targeting lgbt. Pro-police, pro-military. He checks a lot of the fascist boxes, dog.
rosiyaidynakher t1_j2coirp wrote
“Haha! By punching me YOU’VE become the fascist, Dr Jones!”
Niubai t1_j2a4vnl wrote
He won't be attending the inauguration, the coward is escaping, flying away to Orlando at this exact moment, there are even rumors in Brazil that he's going to stay at mar-a-lago. Enjoy him, americans, it's all yours, just give him back when it's time for him to go to prison, please.
spooky9999999 t1_j2akxi0 wrote
mar-a-lago, the temple of losers.
Test19s t1_j2b8v9w wrote
Jair Bolsonaro, Florida man.
DaviSonata t1_j2d3e7j wrote
No need to send him back, he can go straight to The Hague.
SDEexorect t1_j2bwevs wrote
if hes going to florida then he should want prison
sugartoad555 t1_j2ao4cp wrote
Brazilian Trump runs to Florida after his defeat. It's a very popular location for losers. The best losers.
rosiyaidynakher t1_j2col75 wrote
A lot of people are saying it
BlazeReborn t1_j2akf1q wrote
Good riddance, you squalid, detestable piece of amphibian shit.
KinkyQuesadilla t1_j2bk231 wrote
Trumpism is a disease
SharpieBass t1_j2a2co1 wrote
WWDJTD? Trump is his idol, so he won’t be at the inauguration.
LeoFrei7as t1_j2ad3aw wrote
He’s running away because he know if he stayed he would pay for all the shit he did during the horrible 4 years he was in charge
MsBitchhands t1_j2c1b1d wrote
Mar-a-Lardo, where fascist fucks flock together
teddykaygeebee t1_j2bgmog wrote
"Please clap" vibes.
Sunburys t1_j2aailv wrote
He will not attend, in fact, he is flying right now to Orlando, and will stay in the USA for a good time.
i_never_ever_learn t1_j2al42p wrote
He and Trump should start their own "Island Of Misfit Toys"
crankery t1_j2al8ej wrote
classic trump, er, bolsonaro
elshankar t1_j2a24cb wrote
Guy is definitely garbage, but pretty sure he did admit defeat like 2 months ago
bergmoose t1_j2a3nzm wrote
Kinda, not explicitly. Saying it is over is not saying what is over - the election itself can be over without accepting the outcome etc (and of course this message itself was not public, but is repeated by others) . He has never conceded, though members of his party have. He has said things suggesting he does basically concede, but also things that suggest he thinks he can still hold on to power.
Angel_in_Training_2 t1_j2adylr wrote
He needs to keep his base hyped up
autotldr t1_j2a6fug wrote
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 76%. (I'm a bot)
> Brazil's outgoing President Jair Bolsonaro, who has not acknowledged his electoral defeat, bid followers a tearful farewell Friday without stating whether he would attend Sunday's inauguration of victor Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.
> In a live broadcast on social media, the far-right Bolsonaro assured supporters that "We will not see the world end on January 1" when leftist Lula takes office.
> The president spoke for the first time about a failed bomb attack in Brasilia a week ago by a man who said he was a Bolsonaro supporter seeking to sow "Chaos" ahead of the inauguration and "Prevent the establishment of communism in Brazil" under Lula.
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undertheoldmesquite t1_j2at3fi wrote
Good riddance.
Choppergold t1_j2b52qn wrote
Knew he was over once he was bitten by an emu
Ed_Derick_ t1_j2d7prm wrote
And don’t forget his supporters have been standing in front of military buildings literally begging them to take over and start a dictatorship. They literally camped there. Abandoned their jobs and families, to just beg every day for soldiers to take control.
They stayed there even during rain and storms. In one place they got hit by a fucking thunderbolt. And what’s the result of their sacrifice? Nothing. Bolsonaro just took a plane and went away without saying a word. The supporters are already doing the wildest mental gymnastics to try to justify what is he doing, using their usual excuse “It’s all part of the plan, he’s an expert military strategist! It’s 4D chess!” when in reality the whiney baby is just running away.
crmaki t1_j2dgif7 wrote
Yet another sore loser.
mariosevil t1_j2dps65 wrote
No more Brazilian Trump, yayyy!!
Johannes_P t1_j2bdvc0 wrote
He's left the country.
devilsbard t1_j2c87tv wrote
So all the would-be dictators go to Florida after they lose power?
thecaptcaveman t1_j2egvso wrote
Run for your life! Brazil won't miss you.
RelationRealistic t1_j2a5rgu wrote
Why does Victor Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva need six names to identify himself?
DuGalle t1_j2ax9uq wrote
"victor" as in the one who achieved victory.
"da" isn't a name.
His birth name was Luiz Inácio da Silva, "Lula" was* a nickname that he later added to his official name
wastelandho t1_j2a4css wrote
Idiot is an ecological nightmare, I hope the worst for him.