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abecido t1_j1xwh4e wrote

Ukraine is basically a failed state when the Russians are done with it.

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hello_ground_ t1_j1y4tae wrote

Other way around.

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abecido t1_j218i43 wrote

It's already a failed state now.

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hello_ground_ t1_j225oql wrote

A failed state beating the shit out of russia with NATO scraps lol. Ukraine will be rebuilt. They will trade. They will manufacture. Russia will...keep being russia. If they surrender, submit their leaders to The Hague, and pay for damages, the west (their best trading partner by far) might lift sanctions. There might even be a denuclearization agreement. Obviously, russia can't be trusted with such weapons.

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abecido t1_j239tjy wrote

Ukraine is just the battlefield. Your leaders don't really care about the people there, you just want the land. For some weird reason you think that Europe can work without Russia, but whenever Europe was in trouble in history, it was because it were at odds with Russia. It's not going to happen. You lost Korea, Vietnam, Afghanstan and Iraq, and now you are about to lose Ukraine.

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hello_ground_ t1_j25qq01 wrote

Europe is doing fine without russia. Russia...not so much. Ffs, russia couldn't even take Kyiv, which is less than a hundred miles from their border. That's pathetic. "Second strongest military in the world". Russia isn't even the second strongest military in Ukraine lol. I can't wait to see the look on putins face when the US sends a few squadrons of F-16s. Priceless. Russia just need to face reality; if they keep up their bullshit, they're going to be just like North Korea. Shunned by everyone, and having a total shithole for a country. Go home, russia. You're drunk.

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