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VaccinatedVariant t1_j1cprzs wrote

Maybe return the leased jets that they stole, Oh no. They want to buy them at a discounted price

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MidianFootbridge69 t1_j1cqj0p wrote

If I had Leased out any of those Jets, I would not want them back.

No telling what condition they are in at this point and who knows what the Russians have done to those Planes in the interim.

Forget it, no deal - my Company would just have to take the L on those Aircraft.

It's a pretty big L, but dayum, don't steal my shit and then expect for me to do a deal with you to purchase the shit you stole.

Anyway, it will be amusing to watch Russia have to cannibalize Parts and then eventually run completely out of them.

Edit: A Sentence.

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cinyar t1_j1hxm8q wrote

Yeah the service books for those planes are only good as toilet paper at this point. They would probably require a lot of work to make them flightworthy by "western" standards.

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Gumb1i t1_j1efpjv wrote

They have several options to recoup the costs. Insurance, lawsuit, and recouping it through the GOV from seized Russian assets.

edit: they could also attempt to sell them at full price, but Russian companies will likely try to buy them at a significant discount 50% or less

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Ehldas t1_j1czop2 wrote

The maintenance history on those aircraft is already fucked... it's coming up on a year of no spare parts or authorised maintenance procedures, together with the aircraft sitting idle outdoors in a country with absolutely shit weather conditions. I'm 100% certain that they've been properly covered, serviced and periodically spun up, and that no-one stole the fuel and forged maintenance records at all...

Due to the above, even if the aircraft came back into the ownership of the original companies, you could never really trust them again. If you leased them out and any accident were to occur, the leasing company would be absolutely fucked.

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LOUD-AF t1_j1d7f96 wrote

I hear Aerosucre frantically rubbing their hands together. Goody goody!

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allwordsaremadeup t1_j1cq7hm wrote

What were they thinking doing business in Russia? It's been randomly invading countries since 2008 and is under international sanctions. These firms are cowboys. Either the risk should have been part of the price/insured and they should come out of it ok, or they don't deserve to be bailed out.

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TommenBrady t1_j1dy2uc wrote

Earlier if you count Chechnya

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allwordsaremadeup t1_j1e35qo wrote

There had been a regime change since then, liberalisation was ongoing, Putin was publicly acknowledging territorial integrity of the former Soviet states. In 2008, one may have been forgiven to think that investing in Russia could be safe...

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Sc0nnie t1_j1e2ine wrote

The aircraft were STOLEN, not stranded. They deliberately rushed them all into Russia in a panic when the legal owners attempted to legally retake custody of their property.

Now the aircraft are uninsurable scrap metal after having maintenance neglected and parts cannibalized.

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hannje99 t1_j1gkbvq wrote

Why would the West do anything for a regime that bombs hospitals, kidnaps children, tortures children and adults, encourages it soldiers to rape and pillage, etc etc etc? Why are we not disengaging from this regime as much as humanly possible?

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Da_Vader t1_j1cs24e wrote

Can't Russia just keep on using those jets? They've done expropriation of assets left behind by other western companies.

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ajmartin527 t1_j1ctbrs wrote

Short answer: No, not for long.

Long answer: no aircraft repair and replacement parts, low maintenance quality, they would be playing Russian roulette

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Antice t1_j1cy1s5 wrote

Well .. they are Russian after all.

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Tough_Mall190 t1_j1cx8j3 wrote

The western firms will probably end up selling them anyway. Money is more important then morals for these companies.

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sicariobrothers t1_j1h2dl0 wrote

They can’t sell them. The chain of custody is broken and the jets can’t be flown in almost any major country airspace without being rebuilt from the ground up.

They are insurance write offs.

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Vauhtii t1_j1eg0we wrote

Wow in hindsight socialising the western planes wasn't too good idea pants shitting pootin was it?

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disasterbot t1_j1f2x2t wrote

Surprised the leasing companies didn’t try to bribe the pilots to fly them out of Russia.

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