mattbuford t1_j1b9cpr wrote on December 23, 2022 at 12:50 AM

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Canada moves to mandate electric vehicle sales starting in 2026 by rentalfloss

What are you going to be doing that you expect to spend hours at the 15-20 minute charger? Slow multi-hour chargers do exist. Those are the ones you use when you're not waiting. When you are waiting, you use the fast charger.

But really, the answer is to put in chargers where the on-street parking is. Then you don't have to wait.

Or, if you reeeeeeealy can't do either of the above for some reason, then you may be a good candidate to buy a hybrid. The EV mandate allows new hybrids to be sold.

[deleted] t1_j1bd6pe wrote on December 23, 2022 at 1:20 AM

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mattbuford t1_j1bh0e7 wrote on December 23, 2022 at 1:50 AM

Probably the most common mistake people make when looking at EV charging is asking how long for a full charge and then thinking that's how long they will spend waiting, either charging in town or during cross country trips. The answer for a full charge is I don't know, because getting a full charge is an action that no sane person would do while waiting, except perhaps in a few rare circumstances where they are desperate for every mile of range they can get. The way you charge EVs is that you almost never charge above 80% when you're waiting. 5% to 80% is quick. 80% to 100% takes forever. Just charge to 80% and leave and get on with your life. Only charge above 80% when you're not waiting (busy eating at a restaurant while the car charges, or sleeping, or whatever).

There are older tech EVs that can not fast charge, or that have a very slow idea of fast charging, but it's safe to assume that by the time any of these EV mandates kick in that newer model years will be even faster. The situation today is very different from 2 years ago, and the situation 2 years in the future will be very different from now.

In general, EVs are a bit more convenient for day-to-day life when you're not on a road trip (never wait at all in your home area, not even the 5 minutes a gas car takes, because it just charges while you sleep), and a bit less convenient on road trips (maybe 10% slower travel time).

A lot of the snark is just frustration. There are tons of EV owners traveling across the continent every day without issue. But every single social media post about EVs ends up brigaded with a hundred replies saying something like "LOL imagine driving across the country! You could only go 100 miles a day, then you'd have to get a hotel for your 12 hour recharge!" Never mind that there are already plenty of EVs already doing NYC to LA in under 48 hours. It's easy to get jaded at all the replies saying the same false things over and over again. While there are some people, like yourself, that are interested in actually learning, most of them quickly make it clear that they're not interested in learning at all. It's hard to tell them apart until you're a few replies in. :)