Connect-Speaker t1_j1boi3y wrote on December 23, 2022 at 2:48 AM

Reply to comment by bigorangemachine in Canada moves to mandate electric vehicle sales starting in 2026 by rentalfloss

That day is way far away. This mandate only affects 20% of new car sales in 2026. Not used cars.

And you’re already charged for having a gas car. You pay fuel taxes. Those will likely increase steadily, though, so you’re not incorrect.

Good move on the truck.

bigorangemachine t1_j1bq7ii wrote on December 23, 2022 at 3:02 AM

Oh for sure.

I have a car that is 15 years old now.

They say its better to keep the car you have then get anything new including an EV.

For me... I had to look 5 years ahead and the best way to incentivize people to get ride of their gas-vehicles is to use financial incentives. In Ontario the whole emissions test thing was a huge cash grab but it fixed that problem of no one fixing their engine knocks. So if its gonna take 2-5 years to deliver a new EV... 5 years after that to put some BS fee on gas vehicles.. by year 10 (most vehicle life-spans) it'll end up saving me money

To clarify I got the EV-Pickup-Truck. Its the cheapest projected EV.

dubiousadvocate t1_j1by0zv wrote on December 23, 2022 at 4:06 AM

EVs typically break even with their ICE counterparts around 12k miles in terms of fuel costs. It takes longer for total break even costs simply because there is far less regular maintenance with EVs.

bigorangemachine t1_j1c4tkf wrote on December 23, 2022 at 5:08 AM

Ya but they gonna do BS where you can't drive ICE vehicles in cities.

Big cities already have a war on cars as is.

As it is a EV can fully recharge on 20$ where I live. There is zero maintenance costs year over year.

You can take the current setup and it accept it in the current situation but with countries signing up for emission reductions they'll use it to charge ICE power trains to equalize the cost to incentivize EVs in some areas.

Where I live its clear that's the direction is going and I'm not going to "fight the fed".

Even if I'm wrong I test drove an EV and even if it costs more in the long term its so much more fun to drive. The acceleration is unreal. I don't care about top speed... for the cost of a Mercedes I can accelerate like a ferrari for the energy cost of a fiat. The cost benefit LGTM

dubiousadvocate t1_j1c5gs7 wrote on December 23, 2022 at 5:15 AM

And it costs much less lifetime cost of ownership so you’re golden all around. 😉

bigorangemachine t1_j1c7ru7 wrote on December 23, 2022 at 5:38 AM

Again "don't fight the fed"

Don't get me wrong. I think they'll price things in regionally so EVs don't make sense it'll be more expensive given local considerations. But oil is still a pyramid scheme. If everyone isn't buying in oil gets more expensive. Batteries have so much potential to get better.

Its now a game of energy musical chairs. If you are willing to bet energy transmission/generation gets better it makes sense.

If that plan fails you still own a vehicle thats fun to drive and at least I tried to help climate change rather than go "well it gonna cost me too much money meeeeeeeenh". I'd rather try and fail rather than give up before trying.