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Dear Balkans,

Take your ethno nationalism and shove it up your asses. Learn how to live civilly in a multiethnic society for once.

Which country are you from, if I may ask?

US, which also has it's share of useful idiots buying into ethno nationalism.

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Dear US citizen , you are like a newborn when it comes to a civilisation's lifespan. War is not a good thing in any way , but a conflict that your past government created and left there with no resolution rather than postponed it. Now I guess one of the sides decided on its own ( or with a little help even) to resolve it once and for all. I have friends from both sides and I don't want any conflict (especially one with casualties) to happen, I also though want the whole region to stabilize itself so no more severe incidents happen and in general any hostilities towards ethnic groups. I hope you understand! :D

What was the point of your response? You just came off sounding like a dickhole.

Putin is giggling like a school girl rn

Misapplied copy pasta.

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That is the issue in the Balkans though. The Balkans have been at war with itself for the last 300 years. The Austrians, Turks, Hungarians and what not have fanned the fires of discontent in order for them to held the regions under their grasp and they well knew the effects. It’s in the cultural fabric of the countries comprising the region at this point in time and sadly, until the standard of living increases and the painful chapters are discussed and accepted, the status quo will remain.

Kosovo

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>Now I guess one of the sides decided on its own ( or with a little help even) to resolve it once and for all.

You seriously think Serbia is in any position to "resolve" this conflict militarily? May I remind you of what happened the last time that Serbian forces tried to carry out ethnic cleansing?

I have no idea about kosovo, can I get a TLDR?

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>Dear US citizen , you are like a newborn when it comes to a civilisation's lifespan.

The US is over 300 years old and has had modern democracy and modern civilization MUCH longer than most of Eastern Europe. It also started as a colony of one of the greatest planet spanning empires that ever existed. I don't know why Europeans think this is a valid argument, most of your countries are more 'newborn' than the US.

Russia wants to test NATO, so it's using Serbia. And the Serbian government is stupid enough to go along with it.

Tito may have been a dictator, but the Balkans did have some semblance of stability when he ruled Yugoslavia. One of the few “good” dictators in human history.

I mean the question is why? If Serbia decides to do something stupid, NATO will just smash whatever attack force that they use.

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Your guess is as good as mine but Russia has used the Balkan region as a tool to lash out at the west. They fuel instability to throw a monkey wrench in the wests efforts to integrate the western Balkans into the EU. Could be a distraction or something more

Didn’t they have a huge debt problem develop under him tho that helped lead to a lot of their issues?

The whole world is so fucking amped up to fight the ever living shit out of each other. The whole planet feels like a powder keg.

Trying to spread the west thin is my guess but it is unlikely to work considering the number of nations within NATO at this point.

They’ve tried it twice already. If Serbia does it again, we need to destroy them for good.

It also doesn’t really matter. That France has been around for over a thousand years doesn’t mean anyone in France has.

Because now everyone talks about potential "war" (that, according to state media, already happened) instead of amonia (or however it's spelt) poisoning drinking water in one of Serbia's regions.

Exactly.

You know shit about Tito

My bad i just red your whole comment, u are absolutelly correct.

Technically, the Fifth French Republic was created in 1958. So France is only 64 years old.

The U.S. is actually one of the oldest currently existing countries.

Good ol' Europe

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Most of NATO hasn’t historically spent a great deal on their defense industry besides the US and a handful of others, so regardless of number of countries the depth of resource reserve and ability to replenish is finite. If forced to intervene in Kosovo it may impact amount of support for Ukraine. Just a thought

> Most of NATO hasn’t historically spent a great deal on their defense industry

Eh, plenty of heavy weights on the member list

Overall you are right that most do not contribute as much as the few key countries, but it is still more than enough to keep up with current events.

Perhaps it’s enough, perhaps it won’t impact ongoing support to Ukraine but you must admit that it is a further drain nonetheless.

This article seems to indicate that I’m not the only one with this concern, which strengthens the concept that it might be what Russia is trying to do: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/26/world/europe/nato-weapons-shortage-ukraine.html

Lots of priorities; Russia sanctions, arm Ukraine, support Kosovo, deter China, etc…

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Man you guys are really far behind. Those barricades started getting removed like yesterday

The total spending for all NATO countries on defense is nearly equivalent to Russia’s entire GDP LOL

You mean like in Yugoslavia yeah

The Balkans were not at war with itself under Yugoslavia so this statement is absolute bollocks

There was always ethnic tension. Or did you forget about the Chetniks in Serbia who felt betrayed and in the end brought the end of Yugoslavia. Or maybe the Ustasa who hated Serb and Bosnian alike because they wanted to create a greater Croatia. Tito had managed to keep the country in one piece because he knew how to compromise and satisfy all the parts.

Cherry picking at your convenience is neither reflective of the historical background or to the argument I brought forward.

Nice try to defend communism.

History repeating itself . The world was like this before WW1.

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My bet is that Russia is making Serbia ramp up tension in order to distract NATO from Ukraine.

Funny how that keeps happening, over and over and over.

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Less commi than Stalin. Tito told him to shove it and that he would do things his way. So less extreme than funny moustache man number 2.

So all this is because of damn car plates?

Probably not, but I heard this narrative in the news recently.

You fucking idiot it’s the government that pushes the propaganda no person wants war out there.

And yet NATOs military commitments far outstrip Russias, so what’s you point? Besides let’s not kid ourselves, the majority of NATO spending is from the US who is also trying to maintain a sufficient stockpile for global reach and a deterrent against China in the Taiwan straight.

The license plates are the excuse for Serbia to start a war against Kosovo.

Come on Serbia… you don’t want round two

Personally, i highly doubt WW3 will happen tho

There are so many wars happening right now. But the reason why nobody calls these "WW3" is because all of these are proxy wars by powerful nations

For example, the ongoing civil war in Yemen is actually a "war" between Iran and Saudi Arabia. One faction gets supplied by Saudi Arabia, and then the other faction gets supplied by Iran. So basically it's an "informal" or "proxy" war between Saudi Arabia and Iran

There are so many wars, conflicts, and insurgencies all across the Middle East and Africa. In almost all of them, you'll be able to trace at least two powerful countries supplying different groups and militias with various weapons.

Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey all participate in proxy wars across the Middle East. France is involved in Africa. The US almost everywhere

Superpowers rarely participate in traditional wars anymore, they just pit groups against each other to fight their wars for them. Putin just broke this trend by saying "fuck it, let's invade Ukraine", but i doubt other superpowers will follow suit