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pmmichalowski t1_j6hft30 wrote

Reply to comment by elderly_millenial in Tunisian election records 11% turnout in rejection of president’s reforms by nolesfan2011

Sadly it does seem like the end, Tunisia was the only success story, they may yet recover but that would be quite hail Mary :(.

In terms of never, I disagree, but in foreseeable future you are probably right. The mix of history of distrusting external central authority which only legitimacy was strength, culture of tribalism and loyalty to in-groups instead of state identity as well as political Islam that makes compromise impossible as you can't really compromise with God.

All of those exist in other places as well, but all those exist there for now. I still hope for people of the region to buck those trends.

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ferrficha t1_j6m42gi wrote

why you think this is the end for tunisian democracy ? we just changed the political system from parliamentary to presidential.

And Tunisians voted for this new change. All elections we held after the dismissing of the parliament were times more fair that the ones before.

11 turnout proves that. And We will have presidential elections next 2024 and Kais can be voted out if that’s what we want.

Parties being mad and boycotting the election is expected as now they have less power and that’s what we the people wanted.

Also the talk about tribalism, religion and Idk what is all false and irrelevant. The dismissing of the parliament happened because the past system was unable to deliver for the economy.

It’s all about the economy. You yourselves are experiencing the rise of right wing parties due to the harsh economic situation.

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pmmichalowski t1_j6m4axd wrote

I live in UK and I agree, that the country is in decline. However moving to presidential system in which parliamentary elections are boycotted by almost 90% of population don't show almost any hope for democracy.

Don't get me wrong I really really hope that Tunisia, the whole region and for selfish reason UK, will turn it around, but it looks grim for next generation or two :(

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