Truth_is_Liberal t1_j6k2m5i wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:56 PM

Reply to comment by REOreddit in Haavisto: Finland has patience to wait for Nato membership — with Sweden. by parandroidfinn

In reality, the US's existing partnership with Finland is all the protection they need during NATO accession. If Putin so much as blinks at the Finnish border, every Russian troop near it will be dead by the end of the week. Heck, the Finns will probably get it done by themselves.

_PurpleAlien_ t1_j6kbuhe wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:56 PM

> Heck, the Finns will probably get it done by themselves.

This is something that seems is often forgotten in these comments. Finland is not some poor small country without a real army or lacking a means to defend itself. It's got one of the largest artillery capability in Europe and all those weapons are pre-aimed at the eastern border and a people very willing to defend their country.

Truth_is_Liberal t1_j6kejva wrote on January 30, 2023 at 11:14 PM

People talk about NK artillery, but they don't understand how much better and more accurate Western systems are. If people believe NK can flatten Seoul, they better believe the Finns can wreck most of the Russian border crossings within a day. Most folks don't understand how close Finland is to Russian population centers as well, while Finland's population centers are better protected from land invasion.

A sea route will never be viable for Russia, as their Baltic fleet capability is vastly overrated. They have little to no amphibious capability by modern standards. They have limited missile cruisers which would be utterly annihilated within the first 2-3 days.

If it turned into a conventional warhead ballistic missile fight, the entirety of Europe will invade Russia within the week.