Ayylmaothoughyaknow t1_j5r61oe wrote on January 24, 2023 at 11:59 PM

Reply to comment by Chiliconkarma in Swiss medicine sales to Russia hit 30-year high by BezugssystemCH1903

What do you think props up the regime? Their populace having access to food and medicine. No one should stand in the way of that, but at the same time to do business with and export such things TO Russia will never do anything but convince Russians they can keep their lifestyle and kill their neighbors at the same time.

Let the Russian government handle the medical and nutritional needs of their populace. And if that fails then allow humanitarian aid under the implication that those receiving it are well aware of how and why they have to receive foreign aid packages.

Edit: btw I don’t mean wait and watch people starve until Russian leadership begs. I mean send the ultimatum. Russian leadership will realize they will be overthrown in a matter of days should that be the case. Then bring them to the negotiating table. Foreign aid/continuation of medical and food stuffs in return for xyz

Chiliconkarma t1_j5r9eml wrote on January 25, 2023 at 12:22 AM

A. Who should make that threat? Who has the authority to actually starve / let them go without medication and say that on behalf of everybody?
B. What to do if they do not bow down to the ultimatum?
C. I don't find it overly likely that Russia will cooperate.
D. Russia have stated that their conditions for peace includes them keeping what they have stolen.
E. It would be highly unethical to follow through on the threat and damaging for morale if we don't.
F. Putin doesn't really care much about russian lives, he would sacrifice them in order to please himself.

We can't be monsters and we would be shit at pretending to be that. In the longer term it would risk that our local fools try the same logic on states like Hungary, Poland, perhaps UK. Accepting threats as a solution is easy for bullies.